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Post by TBT on Sept 16, 2004 19:41:52 GMT -5
Maybe all I need to do is upgrade my Camper to a Classic Plus with Rosewood Grips eh? I've actually never seen a Buckmark with the grips and all ... wow. That is the prettiest 22 I have ever seen I think. Not that looks mean a lot, but dang!
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Post by MLB on Sept 16, 2004 20:06:40 GMT -5
That image was my wallpaper for a good amount of time. ;D
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Post by TMan on Sept 16, 2004 21:01:11 GMT -5
Actually, this is the one that I have - not exactly, cause I got the picture from their web site, but if I get around to taking a picture some day... Whoops, modified to add the following: To answer why the Ruger is so popular: many times after putting a magazine into the Browning, I'll banjo the slide, but it won't go all the way forward. It needs just a little nudge. The Ruger's slam forward without any hesitation. They have a very solid feel to them. Trigger pull is 2.25 vs. 2.75 on my Browning, so that isn't much difference. Oh, that is on the Ruger like MLB has. My 10" guy has a 3.0 trigger pull. The S&W 41 is 2.0. Both the S&W 41 and Browning Buckmark Bullseye are excellent pistols. However, for the money... give me the Ruger, and there are a lot of aftermarket things you can buy for them too. Personally, I would hesitate to recommend the 10" model because the added weight does get to you after awhile. I enjoy shooting the Competition model more, and I'm greatful to MLB for his review of it, which convinced me to buy one. Oh, which one is most accurate? Get serious - I'm not a good enough shot to tell. I get about the same results. The only .22LR I have a problem with from an accuracy standpoint is the Walther PPK/S. Oh yeah, and with .22 revolvers I forget about keeping them all in the black - I'm lucky to just hit the target.
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Post by KrustyBurger on Sept 25, 2004 9:14:47 GMT -5
Tools to take apart a .22 pistol? Oh brother, no thanks. I'd like a Beretta M-87 Target, but it seems almost mythical. I've never seen one outside of a rare review or a catalog pic. I'm betting that like all Berettas, it'll feed everything and assembles with an easy turn of one lever.
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Post by TMan on Feb 3, 2005 21:08:20 GMT -5
Can't let a good thread fade away. I won, I won, I won,... an auction that is. What I bid on was the Trailside Competion, NIB, but with only one magazine, and it hadn't been fired. A second magaznie cost me $40, which seemed a lot for a little piece of plastic. Give me Ruger magazines any day.
So, while at a range today and done with the 1911 and H&K, I pulled out the new Trailside and put 100 flawless rounds of CCI Mini Mag through it. I'm sitting here staring at the screen trying to think of accolades to describe this thing. Okay, lets go the other way - what I don't like is all their warnings against dry-firing the gun. Is it really that fragile? Other than that, it was a sweety. The only think was that when I put it back together after the initial cleaning, I didn't get the screws tight enough on the front weight and it moved a little forward. Guess I need to start carrying allen wrenches along with my screwdriver assortment.
If you are a regular reader of this forum, you know I like Ruger .22's (have 3), and I think they are a great buy. Well, the Trailside Competition was a little bit more money, but you know - I think it was worth it.
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Post by MLB on Feb 3, 2005 21:48:29 GMT -5
Congratulations TMan. That's supposed to be one accurate handgun. You are fortunate enough to have a S&W M41 to compare it to. Are the actions similar?
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Post by TMan on Feb 4, 2005 10:12:27 GMT -5
Hey MLB, I've been outside looking at my Hyacinth's and Narcissus, which are already in bloom. The tulips haven't opened up yet, but as they say in Texas: "are fixen to". How's the weather in NY? My kids were right: I do have a mean streak.
Anyhow, concerning the "action" between the two pistols you asked about: It has been over a year since I last shot the 41; I need to get it out of storage. I once did a comparison between the S&W 41, Browning Buckmark, and something else, but it got lost when we lost the old board. I need to get them out and try again.
Yesterday, was in an indoor range I hadn't shot in before and the lighting wasn't that good. Therefore, I had a little trouble with the dark front sight. However, I will say that out of the box the trigger pull on this thing was 3.75lbs, which is almost twice the S&W 41 Target's of 2.0lbs. Currently, my best .22LR is the long barrel (10") Ruger that I modified by the Volquartsen Kit, and it is 1.75lbs. It has a new wider trigger so it feel even less.
The thing that impressed me most about the Trailside was the competition grips. I've never had anything fit my hand the way these do. They are adjustable for the width of your palm, and inspite of my large palm there is plenty of additional room for people with even bigger hands (I buy XL gloves).
I had to adjust the sights, and It took a lot of turns to just move it over a little bit. I thought to myself: "should have brought a power screwdriver". So, this thing is meant for really good target shooters that need fine adjustments.
On the left side of the pistol it says: "Trailside Sig Arms Inc. Exeter -NH-USA" On the right side is: "Read Manual Before Use (yeah, right) Hammerli Made in Switzerland Trailside"
One of the "interesting" things was that in the box was this little round medallion that is 2" in diameter and has a yellow cord through it. It says: Hammerli Lenzburg Switzerland on the front. It looked kindof cheezy and I was going to throw it away - then I looked at the back. On the back it says "5 Schuss 25 Meter" and the serial number of the gun. Above that is a black piece of cardboard with the center kind of messed up. Then I realized what it is... It is the target from the test shots, and it measures a little less than a 1/2" group.
Since I've shot a lot of different guns, I've learned to observe my emotions. (No feminine wise cracks). Some guns really bring a smile to my face when I first shoot them. Two Sigs have done that: the P220 Sport, and now the Trailside. The S&W 41, by the way, didn't. The Sig P210 probably would have, but I was too busy bleeding from the hammer bite. ;D
After I shoot it some more, I'll take some pictures, and write a critique, providing I get my camera problem solved, which I'll work on after fixing my wife's car, and getting the income taxes done.
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Post by MLB on Feb 5, 2005 9:54:48 GMT -5
Hey MLB, I've been outside looking at my Hyacinth's and Narcissus, which are already in bloom. The tulips haven't opened up yet, but as they say in Texas: "are fixen to". How's the weather in NY? My kids were right: I do have a mean streak. All right, I see how you are TMan... It's warmed up to about 20 this morning. If we're lucky, it may reach 40 for the big game on Sunday. So I don't expect any flowers to be blooming in the near future. However, right about July when its pushing 110 there in the Lone Star State, I'll send a picture of from the boat in the Finger Lakes. Some days it even gets above 78 or so and we need to turn on the A/C! Enjoy the weather TMan, it must be nice right about now.
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Post by klmhq on Feb 6, 2005 8:33:10 GMT -5
You know, it's kinda sick, but I always think it's funny when I hear about people up north dying in their "heat wave". 85-90 degrees with 45-60% humidity. Man, we hit that two days ago. Of course, those yankees laugh their butts off when I'm freezing at 45 degrees and go jogging in shorts wondering what my problem is.
I live on the Gulf Coast so the humidity his higher here.
A friend asked me to clean his 8-shot ruger .22. He put it away and didn't clean it first, many, many moons ago. It is rusted and pitted pretty bad. It still works, but I'm pretty sure the accuracy is going to be shot.
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Post by TMan on Feb 6, 2005 10:50:55 GMT -5
That is scary about the Ruger. I've done that - put 100 rounds through one, figured I'd shoot it again soon, then clean it, and a year has gone by. Then again could it be your location? If there is dirt in a gun and the gun is in a high humidity area, the dirt would absorb moisture.
Humidity is a killer in heat or cold. I remember one of the times I was coldest in my life was in San Antonio with high humidity, wind, and "cold". I've also been in 90 degree heat with high humidity and thought I was going to die. Here in the DFW area when the temperature gets really high you just stay out of the sun and you are comfortable because the humidity is low. However, my friends in NY think they are dying in the heat and what must it be like here in Texas.
As a kid, in order to support my expensive hobby, I had two paper routes, one with the morning paper, and one with the evening paper. On Sunday mornings the evening paper was a morning paper, so I'd get up at 3am with temperatures well below zero, bundle up, and think nothing of it.
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Post by TBT on Feb 16, 2005 12:44:48 GMT -5
Can't let a good thread fade away. I won, I won, I won,... an auction that is. What I bid on was the Trailside Competion, NIB, but with only one magazine, and it hadn't been fired. A second magaznie cost me $40, which seemed a lot for a little piece of plastic. Give me Ruger magazines any day. So, while at a range today and done with the 1911 and H&K, I pulled out the new Trailside and put 100 flawless rounds of CCI Mini Mag through it. I'm sitting here staring at the screen trying to think of accolades to describe this thing. Okay, lets go the other way - what I don't like is all their warnings against dry-firing the gun. Is it really that fragile? Other than that, it was a sweety. The only think was that when I put it back together after the initial cleaning, I didn't get the screws tight enough on the front weight and it moved a little forward. Guess I need to start carrying allen wrenches along with my screwdriver assortment. If you are a regular reader of this forum, you know I like Ruger .22's (have 3), and I think they are a great buy. Well, the Trailside Competition was a little bit more money, but you know - I think it was worth it. You bought one Tman! Congrats ... and glad you like it!
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