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Post by TMan on Jul 1, 2009 18:13:04 GMT -5
With the difficulty in even getting 22LR ammo, especially the quality stuff, I'm seriously considering air pistols. $65 for 5000 rounds is rather attractive. Of course you have to have an air tank or a pump (probably should go with the pump - I need exercise). Also, you can shoot them in the house (when the wife is away. The one I'm considering is the Walther, which is a 300 BAR pistol. That is a lot of pressure!!! I've seen what 120 psi out of an air compressor tank can do.
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Post by 5ontarget on Jul 2, 2009 6:27:35 GMT -5
I need to get my son into shooting, and in an agreeable manner with the wife. I was planning on getting a decent air rifle and piston for him. I have a bolt .22 for him but the LOP is just a little long and I know he'll out grow one of the little cricket .22s in a couple months.
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Post by TMan on Jul 2, 2009 7:40:34 GMT -5
I need to get some more information, like I did with the Blackpowder revolvers. I'm thinking you meant pistol, not "piston". I know there are things called "springers" like my Beeman, but I've never been too pleased with the accuracy. I also know that you need special scopes because the recoil is in the opposite direction as a normal rifle.
Apparently, like 22LR, the pellets need to be matched to the air gun to determine which ones give the best results. I remember buying a pistol last year, and it wouldn't shoot Gamo pellets. When I contacted the dealer I bought it from, he said he wouldn't have anything with the name Gamo in his shop.
I'm a little nervous about the air guns because I have no idea how to maintain or fix them if something goes wrong. I'm a little concerned about the safety of the precharged ones too: 3000 psi is a lot of pressure.
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Post by MLB on Jul 2, 2009 13:11:35 GMT -5
I have 3 old air rifles that I use in the back yard with the kids. There's a newer Crosman 760 pumper that's not impressive at all, and 2 springers made in Germany and Spain. I can't recall the makes for some odd reason.
There's my Dad's old Red Ryder too, but I've only shot it once.
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Post by TMan on Jul 2, 2009 16:10:19 GMT -5
MLB, with your dad's Red Ryder - did you "shoot your eye out"? Is that why your only shot it once? ;D
My wife's flight didn't come in until 1am last night so I went hunting in the backyard with the Predom Lucznik, which I paid a whopping $50 for. Fortunately for me, I was one of the first to buy one from MGS, and the guy went in the back and picked out a really good one for me.
At night they is a good chance of falling into the pool, but I'm thinking of changing to something a little more modern that I can readily replace. MGS doesn't have these anymore, and I'm quite fond of it.
Also, after shooting a toad 3 times in the head at point blank range and not killing it - I need something a little more powerfull, but not something that will punch a hole in my liner should I miss.
I have another pistol around somewhere, but I don't have a clue where it is. Maybe at the other house. As I recall, it has an excellent trigger.
So I'm thinking in my normal mode: buy something good, and buy some crap too. Example (in 22LR terms): Walther SSP and Phoenix HP-22.
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Post by 5ontarget on Jul 2, 2009 17:53:45 GMT -5
are you leaning toward .22 or .177 cal Seems most of the higher end stuff is in .22
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Post by TMan on Jul 2, 2009 21:48:54 GMT -5
Actually, I'm thinking .177 because there seems to be more of a selection of pellets - sort of like all the different 22LR's. Although I haven't really given it much thought. I think for shooting toads, I want the smaller caliber to get more penetration. Speaking of shooting: I was out mowing the back lawn and I looked and there was a wabbit, then there were two, and then the third one came out. After that all three of them ran in single file into the shrubs on the berm. Crap, I can't shoot them - they were just too cute. The toads, on the other hand, aren't cute. At least the rabbits don't make noise.
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Jul 2, 2009 21:57:46 GMT -5
I have the CO2 pellet pistols from RWS - Dynamit Nobel. These pistol are all metal, with 8 shot rotary magazines, and feature the double action / single action triggers. They are modeled from the Sig Sauer P-225 and feature the functional decocker. The pellets are .177 wadcutters and have a velocity of about 450 fps; enough me for shoot down soda cans at 25 yds, using a double action trigger after my stroke. I'll see if I might can provide better images. The RWS pistols also fits in my holsters for the P-220 and P-226.
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Post by 5ontarget on Jul 6, 2009 13:26:54 GMT -5
next question for you Tman, what mechanisms/models are you considering? spring, air, CO2, ect.
The little I've read, it seems the German models have the best reputation, especially in the springer rifles. Saw a Russian target model not too long ago. Don't know anything about it, except it looked kinda weird. I'll have to see if I can dig up some pics and info/reviews.
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Post by 5ontarget on Jul 6, 2009 13:46:56 GMT -5
seems the NRA has some discounts available through a dealer... www.nrahq.org/youth/specialoffers/eaa.aspIZH-46M Air Pistol is what I was thinking of in my above post.  there's the Anschütz too  just for fun, saw these offerings from Baikal as I was looking for images.  from www.baikalinc.ru/en/company/118.html if you're interested. also in that link are additional links to their other models. for about $50 it almost seems too good to be true.. the IZH 53M Air pistol The Russians have repros of the Nagant revolver, Makarov, Yarigin, and the TT I'd post pictures, but you already know what they look like.  Course if you want repros, there are Sigs, 1911, walther, S&W revolver clones too. |
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Post by Eleyman on Jun 14, 2012 8:50:21 GMT -5
I purchased my IZH 46M from "Airguns of Arizona." It cost me $250,(about 11 years ago) now the price is up around $500. I tried several brands of Pellets before settling on RWS R-10 7.0 Gr. Match Pistol. For matches I use RWS R-10 Match Premium 7.0 Gr.
The differences between the two are, first, Price, the Match Pistol run about $14 for 500 and the Premium are about $40 for 500.
Second, the Premium pellets all weight 7.0 Grs. exactly and they are packaged so that the Pellets do not touch each other.
The Match Pistol come in a can and have a different tolerance range, they can vary as much as Plus or Minus 1.5 to 2 Grs.
Most of my pellets are purchased at Pyramyd Air, some times you can get deals where you buy two and get one free. Not bad.
If I could afford one of the expensive PCP Pistols, I am sure my opinion would be different, until then, I love and cherish my IZH 46M. ;D
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Post by TMan on Jun 15, 2012 6:21:10 GMT -5
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Post by Eleyman on Jun 16, 2012 7:07:07 GMT -5
Thanks TMan, but you are to late with good advise, I tried them and rejected them, they did not work well in my IZH. Others that I tried also fail to impress me but I liked the RWS R-10s. When I go to matches, I see a lot of RWS R-10 pellets in use. I don't believe I have ever seen Gamo Pellets being used.
Your advise is great for those that are just getting started in Air Guns, so if you are thinking of going to Air Guns and you are reading this, take heed.
Another piece of advise. Sometimes you will see people shaking their tins of pellets, why they do that, I do not know. I can tell you this, you are not going to make them fly straighter by doing that, in fact you are damaging them.
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