1911 vs. P220S

[TMan]

Okay, having found the solution for the hard to clean barrel (outside) on the Sig (coat it well with grease before shooting), I headed to the range with the Wilson CQB and the Sig P220S. I picked the day because I knew who the range officer would be, and he is the best shot I have ever seen. I wanted an outside opinion from someone that I respected.

First I let him shoot the little .32 ACP in order to warm up a little. Then a couple of clips worth of .45 in the CQB. He remarked: "this has a little kick to it". Next he shot the Sig. Big smile on his face, and even he was more accurate with the Sig.

Since I paid a lot less for the Sig than the CQB, I consider it a heck of a buy. As I was leaving for the day, he picked up the Sig and remarked: "this feels more like you are shooting a .38 than a .45 - really nice gun".

Okay 1911 guys, no hate mail. ;D

["DoubleAction"]

TMAN; I do admire your taste in pistols; I do have to admit that the Sigs ( I think I now have 9, including two 220s chambered in the .45acp) are very smooth pistols. A few things about the Sigs make them much different than the CQBs, one is their cammed barrel , upper block lockup, longer frame rails, ramped barrel, and recoil spring system.
When the slide goes into full recoil with the Sig, the slide comes to rest on the compressed recoil spring, rather than the recoil spring plug to guide rod to frame, as with the CQB. Most Sig 220s come with a very strong stranded recoil spring, where the CQB is of Steel Wire.
Depending on the wear of the recoil spring of the CQB, and the ammunition being used, the Sig might very well seem to be the smoother of the two.
With the right ammunition, the speed and accuracy of the CQB is a real treat, but for plain, no nonsense, factory out of the box, double action production pistols, the Sig 220 has been making it's mark in the .45 acp for over twenty years. I have often said, if Sig ever made a P-Series pistol with a 1911 trigger, I would be the first in line to buy one.
Both pistols are very ergonomic, and there are several reasons why the Sig functions and feeds much smoother than it's 1911 counter part, in certain cases. To get the same design features on a 1911, that you have with a Sig, those were considered to be custom options by most manufacturers only a few short years ago.
You know the best part of it all ?; The Sig P-220s are showing up on the pre-owned markets, in new condition, for $500. and less.

[Misfit]

Used Sig 220s for $500 or less? Not in my state, DA!
Heck, anything in .45 here costs an arm and a leg, even real POS rattletrap 1911 copies that looks like they were put together in an Iraqi basement.

["DoubleAction"]

Misfit; Good to hear from you again.
Finding Pre-Owned Sigs in New Condition, for $500, requires working among individuals, pawn shops, the gun range, and just about any source invovling the sale of guns. If you want to find out how much a gun dealer/pawn shop gives for the pre-owned Sigs, take one in for an offer. I have, and so has many others; around here the top price paid for a pre-owned Sig, with tritium sights, is $350. I had much rather buy from individuals, and they are better off selling to someone like me or you. If they can get $500 for a used sig, they will throw in ammo, holsters, extra magazines, and their mother's soul to get that kind of price.

[Misfit]

Well, glad to be back after a fairly lengthy time away from the boards, DA!

Gosh, I hope getting back into this forum doesn't make me go out and buy another gun! ;D I recently had the rare chance to go shooting, and took along three of my guns and rented a Sig220 (.45) to shoot. I had my own 1911-clone to compare. Well - unfortunately I started with the 1911 first (mistake on my part - ) and I was all over the place on my first clip. I went back to the 9mms to warm up, and then tried the 1911 again. Much better this time, then I tried the Sig. Well, recoil was still pretty similar, as far as I could tell, but the Sig just seemed much more, well, pointable. The stock sights that came with my 1911 are pretty bad, and this might be part of it, but I really got to like and respect the Sig, all dirty and heavily worn rental pistol that it was. I had been considering the CZ97 for some time now, but no place I've been to seems to have one for rent that I can try out, and so Sig might get a little nudge upward on my list of to-gets.

Hey - how did my post count go to 500?

["DoubleAction"]

Misfit; All the original members of the old forum get a rating of four stars; The only way this can be done is to increase the message postings. Every member is a Charter Member, until 1,000 postings; This will make the distance shorter. If a member contributes something of merit to the forum, his rankings will be boosted along with his message count. No "GOD" Rating here, but we do have "Pistolero".

[Misfit]

Cool, DA - I feel honored. I think my actual post count from the old forum was in the mid-200's. Not nearly as many as some of the "real" pistoleros in our midst, but I did spend a considerable amount of time there. What are the "ranks" now? I seem to remember

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