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Post by mwatson69 on Nov 6, 2004 23:01:17 GMT -5
K well I have made up my mind... I am going to get a Springfield Armory XD 4 " barrel..  Just havent made up my mind with the caliber which I want to get.. I was originally going to get the 9mm then a dealer told me that he reccommends the .40 S&W then someone else asked me why I didnt want to go with the 357 SIG. Well at the moment all I plan on doing is target shooting.. but possibly in the future I would like to hunt, possibly. So the dealer told me with that in mind that he reccommends the .40 S&W because it has more power than the 9mm. Now what major differences are there between these 3 calibers? Besides price and grain size.. Here is what I found.. This is from www.cabelas.com9mm I can buy 300 rounds 115 grain for $42 or 125 grain for $40 .40 S&W I can buy 300 rounds 180 grain for $55 .357 SIG I can buy 300 rounds 125 grain for $60 Which caliber would you guys reccommend.. This is going to be my first pistol purchase so I dont know much about the different calibers... Thanks for your help.. Matt |
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Nov 6, 2004 23:25:13 GMT -5
Matt; For inexperienced handgun shooters, the 9mm will have less recoil than the .40 S&W or the 357 sig, and your skill should develope faster with that cartridge. Although that sounds attractive, part of developing skill with a handgun is learning to control recoil. I've fired many .40 S&W and consider that cartridge on the lower spectrum of recoil, as compared to the 357 sig, .45 acp, .357 Magnum, and 44 Magnum. With the .40 S&W, the option of converting to the 357 sig is easily done by swapping out barrels on some pistols. I'm most fond of the 357 sig for shooting, than I am the .40 S&W, because of it's high energy and flatter trajectory.
If you plan of getting into shooting the Hunting cartridges in the near future, look at a .357 magnum revolver and start off using the 38 specials. Or; You can look at a 44 Magnum Revolver and start off using the 44 Specials in the same gun.
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Post by mwatson69 on Nov 6, 2004 23:47:19 GMT -5
yeah see Im not really a revolver person.. I have shot rounds out of a 44 mag and I just dont like the looks of the revolvers... I have also shot rounds from a 9mm and a .40 S&W. I am kind of leaning rowards the .40 but am curious about the 357 sig and 9mm is always a back up since shells are cheaper than others.... Im just confused LOL just gonna have to think about it alot more and do some more research..
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Nov 7, 2004 0:17:34 GMT -5
Watson; I was just reading an article, earler today, in the Feb. 2002 issue of Guns & Ammo on the XD and it's options of the 9mm., .40 S&W, and 357 Sig. The best group size was with the .40 S&W, second was 357 SIg, and the largest group size was with the 9mm. There are advantages with the 9mm when it comes to higher magazine capacities and the article I read states that magazines from S&W, Beretta, Sig, CZ, and others can be modified to fit the XD-9. All it takes is a new mag release cut relocated to match that on the release of the XD.
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Post by mwatson69 on Nov 7, 2004 0:41:15 GMT -5
so the guns shoots better in the .40 caliber.. What magazine was that again.. I will have to check it out... Yeah Im not into modding any guns.. I would just keep it stock... I appreciate the help.. This site has been great to me and very helpful . Thanks guys
Matt
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Post by 5ontarget on Nov 7, 2004 7:32:46 GMT -5
I have a service model XD in .357sig. It is a great gun. The .40 is also good. I have not shot it in 9mm. As DA mentioned, if you get a .40 or a .357 you can buy a conversion barrel and shoot 9mm. Changing barrels is as easy as stripping your gun for cleaning, no modifications required. If you get a 9mm, you cannot convert to a .40 or a .357.
If it were my first gun, I would go with a .40. It is a better defensive round than the 9mm. It is more expensive than the 9mm, but cheaper and easier to find than the .357sig. The recoil is less than the .337 as well. And you can later convert it to 9mm and take advantage of the cheaper ammo.
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Post by mwatson69 on Nov 7, 2004 11:57:10 GMT -5
So where would I pick up the conversion kit for the .40 to make it a 9mm? If thats the case then I would definitely go with the .40 S&W!! Thanks guys
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Post by TMan on Nov 7, 2004 20:20:14 GMT -5
I have more pistols that shoot 9mm than any other caliber. The basic cost of the 9mm is less, and it frequently goes on sale. I think I currently have a little over 5000 rounds of 9mm and all of it was bought on sale. I haven't found sales on the other calibers. I don't mind spending money, I just don't want to spend more than I have to.
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Post by 5ontarget on Nov 7, 2004 21:13:55 GMT -5
the 2 makes I know of are Barsto, and EFK firedragon. www.barsto.com/ $200-215+s/h the best I've seen for the EFK bbl is here www.pistol-gear.com ~$150+s/h Barsto is a bigger and more recognized name. When I contacted Springfield Armory, that is who they recommended. fwiw |
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Post by Ricochet on Nov 8, 2004 9:34:00 GMT -5
I have an XD-40 service model as well as an XD-9 subcompact. I really enjoy them both. The 9 mm subcompact will make a better CCW, but if I had to go back to only one, I'd keep the .40 cal. It's the one that I keep on the bedside table at night. ;D
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Post by MLB on Nov 8, 2004 12:17:05 GMT -5
... Well at the moment all I plan on doing is target shooting.. but possibly in the future I would like to hunt, possibly. So the dealer told me with that in mind that he reccommends the .40 S&W because it has more power than the 9mm. ... Matt, My first handgun was a P99, and I decided to go with the .40 cal. Although hunting crossed my mind at the time, it should be a minor concern IMO. If you do decide to hunt with a handgun, you'll probably end up picking one up just for hunting. .40 cal out of a short barrel isn't the best for taking game unless you're on top of it anyway. I decided on the .40 over the 9mm for stopping power. (I didn't know about the 357 sig then.) At the time, (and still for those of us in NY) we were limited to 10 rounds in a magazine. Now, the availability of standard capacity (15 I think?) magazines gives the narrower 9mm round an advantage in capacity. I'd decide the primary use, then decide on the caliber. If you decide that it's primarily a target shooting pistol, I'd go 9mm. Cheaper, lighter recoil, more rounds, and the paper/tin cans won't know the difference. Like I mentioned earler, I'd go with a different gun for hunting, and for home defense, you have to balance all three of those calibers; they all have plusses and minuses. Shot placement trumps them all though. A .22 in the noggin beats a .45 in the foot. ;D You've got to be able to hit your target. I've heard good things about the XD. (Aside from concerns about the finish). You'll have fun either way. Stay Safe, MLB |
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Post by mwatson69 on Nov 10, 2004 15:30:10 GMT -5
k well I just got back from the gun shop.. Went to have him oder my .40 S&W XD 4" Olive color. The dealers he buys through doesnt have any in stock and arent sure when they are going to get any in. And others that he called were all shipped with High cap mags, which are illegal in NY and they dont mag swap. So i mght have to go with black color even though I really want the olive. ANybody have any ideas?
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Nov 10, 2004 15:56:24 GMT -5
Matt; Black seems to have always been the standard among professionals, in the polymer frames. I would go with black, with a matching black holster and belt.
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Post by mwatson69 on Nov 10, 2004 17:17:43 GMT -5
yeah but that olive looks sharp to me.. But when olive isnt available then black was next...
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Nov 10, 2004 18:03:52 GMT -5
yeah but that olive looks sharp to me.. But when olive isnt available then black was next...   |
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Post by mwatson69 on Nov 10, 2004 18:34:11 GMT -5
yeah I think the olive is nice.. but the dealer I was talking to today said that if I ever wanted to sell it in the future that since it was olive the resale value would decrease is alot more than simply black would. Any truth to that? Yeah so basically the 5 dealers that he purchases guns from didnt have any olive xd's and only 1 or 2 had them on backorder, but they said that they cant guarantee when they will receive them.. They said it could be as early as a week but as long as a year before they receive their shipment of olive xd's. So that scared me away from olive a little bit. I want the olive one but not sure if I can wait that long before getting an XD in my hand... But then again.. Im not sure if I want to settle with just black when I have looked at olive for so long now.. Another thing that one of his dealers said is that they just received a shipment of XD's(no olive) but the ones that they received were sent with high cap magazines. And NY is dumb and at the moment they dont like high cap mags and the dealers wont swap out the mags for us. He told me that if I found an olive xd in a flyer or from another dealer that he would do business through them but I dont even know where to look for flyers and or other dealers.. So basically my search is now for some dealers most likely internet since he searched around locally for me.. any suggestions?
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Nov 10, 2004 18:59:30 GMT -5
Matt; Try Gunbroker, they have plenty of the Olive frames. If you need any help, they have a full listing of participating dealers in your area. Just type in "XD" in the search box of the pistols section. www.gunbroker.com |
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Post by Mountaineer on Nov 10, 2004 19:21:15 GMT -5
Matt, I shoot 9mm, .40S&W, and .45ACP in semi auto pistols. If it were me, I think I would go with the 9mm. The ammo. is less expensive, there is less recoil, and with the high performance ammo. out there, there is only about a 2 or 3% difference in one shot stops compared to the .40S&W and .45ACP. I'm not to familiar with the 357Sig., but you can always buy another gun sometime ;D
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Post by mwatson69 on Nov 11, 2004 7:27:40 GMT -5
anyone know of any good distributors? Because if I could find one that has my gun I am looking for then then my dealer would buy from them...
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Nov 11, 2004 19:53:26 GMT -5
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