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Post by TMan on Jul 21, 2005 17:11:41 GMT -5
While I was waiting for the paperwork to be done on my Wilson CQB today, I was looking at some other guns that were in stock. One of them that caught my eye (from the label on the outside of the box). It was the Sig P226 Navy, which is a special edition that is issued to the Navy Seals. I asked for, and received, permission to open the box. It looked like an ordinary P226. I asked her what the difference was and she pointed out the little Navy Anchor on the side of the slide.
I then asked for permission to dry-fire it. She agreed to it so I cocked the hammer (incidentally, this is rare - women normally tell me NO... ), I then slowly pulled the trigger. I couldn't believe it. Not only was it creepy, but I could see the hammer move forward as I pulled the trigger. Finally it let go. I must have had some wild facial expression because she asked me what was wrong. I showed her. I thought having a negative engagement like that was anathema. I hope this is a rare occurrence because I'd hate to think that success is spoiling Sig.
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Jul 21, 2005 21:23:01 GMT -5
TMan; The Trigger Bar rubbing against the inner portion of the slide will cause the trigger to feel gritty with the 226 Stainless Slide. When I first got my 226 it had a very gritty trigger, highly uncommon with the Sigs I had owned. It bothered me so much that I took it down and polished every contact point and installed a lighter mainspring. I finally tracked it down to the trigger bar where it rises across the slide recess. The trigger turned out to be the smoothest and lightest of all my Sig Pistols.
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Post by TMan on Jul 21, 2005 22:05:51 GMT -5
DA, my Accelerator, which I love has a gritty, creepy trigger. I can live with that. What really bothered me is the fact I could see the hammer move forward as I squeezed the trigger. I was taught via videos ( along with the use of Simple Green ), the trigger should move slightly backwards and never forward.
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Jul 21, 2005 22:24:56 GMT -5
TMan; That sounds like something with the decocker; The Hammer hook on the Sig breaks off a sear, kind of hard to imagine it going forward while being held back back by the sear. Sounds like the decocker might be sticking a little; That's all I can think of at this point. I'm sitting here with my 239, trying to get it to do the same thing, and the only way I can come close is playing with the decocker and trigger at the same time. Some grips will press against the decocker pivot and spring, causing the same thing to happen. I've known people to have the decocker spring bind when installing rubber grips on their Sig. Come to think of it; I had the same thing occure with the Packmayr grips for the 220. The problem shouldn't be serious enough for a mass recall, however, I think The dealer ought to be able to find the problem before he sells it to anyone, or send it back to Sigarms. Anything faulty about the lockwork on any pistol, and sold across the counter, should hold someone accountable, especially if they knowingly sell such a gun. That is why people pay high end prices for high end guns, at reputable dealers.
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Post by TMan on Jul 22, 2005 5:43:19 GMT -5
Thanks DA, I'll call the dealer today and make her aware of it.
In one of the AGI videos, I think it was the AR-15 Trigger Jobs, he shows a wooden mock-up of trigger-sear engagements. When the angle is negative the hammer will move forward as the sear moves. I can't mentally picture the internal way the decocker works, but I think you are right that there could have be some unintentional movement internally, and not the sear angle being wrong.
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Jul 22, 2005 7:41:29 GMT -5
TMan; By taking off the left grip panel on the Sig ( Same side as decocker ), you can see inside the lockwork where the decocker deactivates the sear and lowers the hammer. You can also see the sear engagement to the hammer hook.
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Post by TMan on Aug 11, 2005 8:24:13 GMT -5
Whoops, I forgot to update this.
When I went back to the dealership, I tried a different pistol and it worked fine. Then I went back to the one that failed. I worked the slide several times; worked the decocker a few times; put in a snap-cap and tried it.
The problem went away. I'm thinking that DA was probably right with his diagnosis that it had something to do with the decocker.
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