Need a review of carry condition

[5ontarget]

I can't recall what all the conditions are for carry. I'm not talking about looks, I'm talking about fire/carry condition 1, 2, etc.

It has been annoying me all day, and I can't remember them.

[KyJim]

For pistols:

Condition 0 -- nothing in chamber, mag out
1 - mag with rounds in it inserted but no rounds chambered
2 - mag in, round chambered, hammer down - DAs normally safe like this, SA only pisotls usually are not
3 - mag in, round chambered, cocked and locked (safety on) for single actions and some DA/SA

[MLB]

Pretty sure it's the other way around:

• Condition 0 - A round in the chamber, hammer is cocked, and the safety is off.
  
  
• Condition 1 - "cocked and locked," a round in the chamber, hammer cocked, safety on.
  
  
• Condition 2 - Round in the chamber and hammer down.
  
  
• Condition 3 - Chamber empty, hammer down with a charged magazine in the gun.
  
  
• Condition 4 - Chamber empty, hammer down with no magazine in the gun.
  
  

[TMan]

I feel like I've crawled out from under a rock again. What are you guys talking about. Who defines the conditions?

[somery]

really, we're crawling.... i want to know as well and with texas's new travel laws, which condition is allowed to have in vehicle without permit?

[MLB]

Now that you bring it up, I don't know who defined it. My guess is that it was the US military, as it most often used to describe the various conditions of the 1911.

Regarding legality, I've never heard anything other than loaded or unloaded used to describe how you may carry / transport your firearm. The "conditions" are just a bit more descriptive.

It's sometimes difficult to apply the standard conditions to modern firearms (like my P99) as they often don't have a safety, or a hammer for that matter.

[somery]

another truth! like the P-9, you start with cond 4, pop a magazine in, its cond 3. pull the slide back and it skips to condition 0...

["DoubleAction"]

I've heard Jeff Cooper with being credited on coming up with the "Condition of Readiness". I never heard of it during the six years I was in the military, and only heard about it when certain holster manufacturers describe the condition level rating of their duty gear. Most of my holsters and Handguns are designed for Condition One Carry. The Sigs are similar to double action revolvers because of their Condition Two Carry, with no manual safeties and a double action trigger; The 1911 on Condition One has a safety to disengage.

Condition - 0 - Round in chamber, Hammer Cocked, Safety Off.

Condition - 1 - Round in Chamber, Hammer Cocked, Safety On.

Condition- 2 - Round in Chamber, Hammer Down, Magazine In

Condition - 3- Chamber Empty, Hammer Down, Magazine In.

Condition - 4 - Chamber Empty, Hammer Down, No Magazine

[5ontarget]

Thanks guys. Sometimes I hate my brain.