Model 19

[TA]

A new addition to my collection. This is a pinned and recessed M19-4 .357 Magnum. It is in excellent condition with an interesting history behind it. The guy I bought it from was selling it for the estate of a gun shop owner. He bought it his 1st week in business in 1980 and charged himself retail. He fired it very little and parked it next to his cash register for a few years. The last 10 years it has been in a display case in his office.

With the gun I received the original sales receipt, the original Invoice from Lew Horton Distributors along with the shops 1st week total sales. I have been on a quest for blue S&W revolvers lately. I have a 4" 27-2 coming next week.

["DoubleAction"]

TA; That's another choice revolver for your collection. The Model 19 looks good with the Bill Jordan grips too, especially since he put forth alot of input on the mid frame magnum for duty carry. The model 27-2 in the 4 inch is more of a rarity because that barrel length was manufactured a fewer number of years than the others. These revolvers tells alot about Smith & Wesson and the people who built these revolvers. Your a wise collector in pursuing these treasures. Check the double action pull weight on these amd see what you come up with.

[TA]

DA,

The 4" P&R'd 27-2 4" should be in next week sometime. It is in excellent condition with original box. What I have learned is the -2 4" is the most rare because I believe it was only offered for around 2 years ( I am on the road and don't have access to my books). The 3 1/2" 27's command higher, sometime a lot higher prices even though the 4" are more scarce. I am really lloking forward to receiving the 27.

I think you have a 27-2 4" also, don't you? I will gauge the trigger pulls when I get home.

["DoubleAction"]

TA; I acquired a 27-2 with the four inch barrel a couple of years ago, it was unfired with all the original paper work, and wood case. S&W put some work in these guns, after all, it was their flagship .357 magnum revolver. What surprised me first about mine was it's 7 1/2 to 7 3/4 lb. double action trigger stroke and workmanship. I love mine.

[MLB]

I'm interested in the pins that show in the trigger itself. What are these for? Is it a shoe of some sort?

[TA]

MLB,

Yes, it is a trigger shoe with set screws. I will probably remove it, just haven't had the chance yet.

[TMan]

Here I go showing my ignornance again: what is a trigger shoe, and what is the purpose of it?

[TA]

I will share in your ignorance, because I don't really know. Other than make the trigger wider and give you something to snag on a holster, I'm not sure. I took it off already.

DA probably knows more about this and why some guys like them.

["DoubleAction"]

The trigger shoe provides a wider or more cushion effect to the pad of the trigger finger. This is more of a personnal preference accessory for those who prefer the weight of the trigger spred out on the pad, rather than pressing hard in one small area of the pad. S&W has wider .500" triggers on some of thier target revolvers; I reckon the same reasoning is applied to the wider trigger on Colt's Gold Cup. TMan; I think we talked about this once before.
The downside of the trigger shoes is the chance of the extended width of the shoe accessory catching on something when holstering the gun; With a double action revolver, it don't take much for a loose thread to snag on the trigger shoe when pushing the muzzle in the snout of a holster.

["DoubleAction"]

I should add that some shoes on the smaller frame revolvers will extended beyond the width of the trigger guard, or very close to it, causing the trigger to pull between the leather when holstering the gun.

[TMan]

admin said:

..., causing the trigger to pull between the leather when holstering the gun.

Yikes, couldn't that cause the gun to discharge?

Yes, we had quite a conversation about the width of the trigger. The "shoes" never came up.

Is there some reason for having the vertical grooves in some triggers? The Ruger MKIII Hunter had the grooves, but the replacement, adjustable, trigger supplied with the Volquartsen kit is smooth. I would think with the grooves, it would apply more pressure on the finger on the ridges, which would make the trigger feel heavier.

["DoubleAction"]

TMan; I've found from my own experience, with the serated triggers, that the serations provides a non slip surface for the pad of the finger to rest. This places the the pad on the same place from one shot to he next, with no roll or slip.