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Post by TMan on Oct 23, 2007 22:28:11 GMT -5
OK, so I remember in some thread saying that I wasn't interested in the H&K P30, and I was interested in the Taurus 24/7 OSS.
Last week while in Tampa I rented a Taurus 24/7 (the OSS isn't available yet). We also rented a Sig 229. I shot the 24/7 first and then my son-in-law and I switched guns. His comment: "Good grief, this trigger is awful". He was right. Now I don't think I really want the OSS version.
So today while I was picking up Jenny, I was looking at a H&K P30, and I was quite impressed. I always had a problem with the USP that it didn't fit my hand very well. However, this gun not only has replaceable backstraps, but it also has replaceable side panels.
The trigger was good, but not quite as good as on my H&K Expert. I could feel a little bit of creep just before the hammer fell. I think that would go away after a few rounds through it.
I've been very impressed with the products that I have that were made by H&K (currently 3: Elite, Expert, and USC). I think this new P30 deserves the H&K logo. (Example of gun that doesn't deserve a logo: Walther P22 or even S&W 22A)
So why didn't I buy the P30?
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Post by 5ontarget on Oct 25, 2007 7:49:23 GMT -5
So why didn't I buy the P30? Are you waiting for different color options, one to bring out the features of your holster/belt? I initially liked the 24/7, until I pulled the trigger on one. I didn't like the feel of the plastic trigger, and the actual pull was pretty nasty. I really liked the gun other than that.
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Post by MLB on Oct 25, 2007 14:43:42 GMT -5
The plastic trigger on the P99 is a drawback for me too. If it's going to be plastic, it should at least feel rigid.
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Post by TMan on Oct 25, 2007 16:33:42 GMT -5
Actually, the reason I didn't buy it is because I only went to pick up Jenny and didn't have my check-book. I went back. Today I went to the range this morning to shoot it. Unfortunately, on the way there was an auto accident and I had to apply the brakes hard and fast. It had an effect on me so I wasn't feeling very well by the time I got to the range (motion sickness). Prior to going to the range, I had removed the side plates and backstrap, and replaced the medium ones supplied on the gun with the small ones. I can't imagine someone needing the large ones. Those guys in Germany must have big hands. (Of course not as big as the guys in Israel with the Desert Eagle). I didn't shoot it as well as I have shot the H&K Expert or the H&K Elite. Hmmm, wonder if you don't get what you don't pay for. One conclusion that I reached is that H&K should include a cap with their package. I got beaned several times in the 100 rounds that I put through it today. I don't think it is as bad as the Elite, but definitely worse than the Expert. There are a couple of things about the P30 that surprised me: 1) It is essentially a P2000 or even closer to the P2000SK especially the V3 version. The same manual covers the P2000 and P30. 2) The slide release is ambidextrous. First time I've seen that. When you press in the pin on the right side and pull out the left side (doesn't need to be completely removed), the right side lever remains in place. 3) The magazine release is on the trigger guard (like the PPS, but much smaller) 4) There is a button on the rear of the slide next to the hammer. When you press it with your thumb, it decocks the hammer. Funny, but neither the PPS nor the P30 interested me when I read about them. However, when I saw them and had them in my paw, I got very interested. P99c
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Post by MLB on Oct 25, 2007 19:42:56 GMT -5
I've gotten used to having the magazine release on the trigger guard. I think the P99 was the first to do that. I can hit it with my middle finger without adjusting my grip. Similarly with the replacable backstraps. Many of the recent polymer pow-sticks have this feature now.
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