Post by TMan on Apr 2, 2005 19:07:09 GMT -5
Being a little bored this morning, waiting for the wife to wake up to go to Starbucks, I was reading the "One star" reviews in www.handgunreview.com.
What really drew my interest were three types of problems: slide related, trigger related, and feeding. What I'm wondering is: were these caused by the gun, the user, or the ammo? Briefly in reverse order:
1) I know feeding problems can be caused by mechanical problems such as bad magazines, the ramp not being right, and poor geometry in the design. They can also be caused by bad ammo.
I've experienced more feeding problems with .22 semi-automatics than anything else. On occasions I've been ready to slip the magazine into the pistol when I noticed that the first round had slipped and wasn't in the right position. I've also had problems with not getting the magazine fully into the pistol. With the Ruger MKII's european type magazine release this is never a problem, but it has gotten me on the Buckmarks. My shooting instructor taught me to always tap the back of the loaded magazine against the palm of my hand to seat the rounds. I later read this is an user manual too.
Prior to switching to CCI Mini-Mags for all my .22 auto's I noticed some other rounds would cause a build-up of crud on the feed ramp with subsequent feeding problems.
2) On some of my guns with adjustable triggers, I've adjusted the trigger so there was no take-up. Then after dry-firing it with no problems, I took it to the range and they failed after the first round. Heat or cycling, I'm not sure, but it was in with the allen wrench to back off a little then everything worked fine. So there can be gun problems that cause this, but can there be user problems too?
What if you aren't removing your finger from the trigger quickly enough after firing a shot? Ideally, it shouldn't make a difference if the pistol is designed properly. When you do remove your finger, it should reset the trigger even after the gun is back in battery. However, are there pistol designs where you have to remove your finger prior to the gun returning to battery? I don't know.
3) These appear to be the greatest number of problems reported. I'm sure all of us have had them from time to time. The point is: a semi-automatic must have a certain amount of energy to properly extract, eject, and feed the next round. This same energy is used to lock the slide back after the last round, if the pistol is designed to do it.
Certain manufacturer's ammo has more energy than others. The new Sig .22LR comes with two recoil springs. You use the lighter spring for standard ammo. So ammo can be a factor. (I don't use CCI Stinger's. Just a little too much energy to suit me.)
If the shooter is not holding the gun firmly enough, energy is lost that is needed for proper operation of the gun. When I read of a lot of jamming problems, and then the person mentions "stovepipes", I think to myself - probably user error.
Incidentally, I tend to limp-wrist .22's never .45's.
So, what I'm getting at is to read bad reviews about the above topics with a grain of salt. A Ruger P90 stove-piping a gun problem? I'm highly doubtful!!!
What really drew my interest were three types of problems: slide related, trigger related, and feeding. What I'm wondering is: were these caused by the gun, the user, or the ammo? Briefly in reverse order:
1) I know feeding problems can be caused by mechanical problems such as bad magazines, the ramp not being right, and poor geometry in the design. They can also be caused by bad ammo.
I've experienced more feeding problems with .22 semi-automatics than anything else. On occasions I've been ready to slip the magazine into the pistol when I noticed that the first round had slipped and wasn't in the right position. I've also had problems with not getting the magazine fully into the pistol. With the Ruger MKII's european type magazine release this is never a problem, but it has gotten me on the Buckmarks. My shooting instructor taught me to always tap the back of the loaded magazine against the palm of my hand to seat the rounds. I later read this is an user manual too.
Prior to switching to CCI Mini-Mags for all my .22 auto's I noticed some other rounds would cause a build-up of crud on the feed ramp with subsequent feeding problems.
2) On some of my guns with adjustable triggers, I've adjusted the trigger so there was no take-up. Then after dry-firing it with no problems, I took it to the range and they failed after the first round. Heat or cycling, I'm not sure, but it was in with the allen wrench to back off a little then everything worked fine. So there can be gun problems that cause this, but can there be user problems too?
What if you aren't removing your finger from the trigger quickly enough after firing a shot? Ideally, it shouldn't make a difference if the pistol is designed properly. When you do remove your finger, it should reset the trigger even after the gun is back in battery. However, are there pistol designs where you have to remove your finger prior to the gun returning to battery? I don't know.
3) These appear to be the greatest number of problems reported. I'm sure all of us have had them from time to time. The point is: a semi-automatic must have a certain amount of energy to properly extract, eject, and feed the next round. This same energy is used to lock the slide back after the last round, if the pistol is designed to do it.
Certain manufacturer's ammo has more energy than others. The new Sig .22LR comes with two recoil springs. You use the lighter spring for standard ammo. So ammo can be a factor. (I don't use CCI Stinger's. Just a little too much energy to suit me.)
If the shooter is not holding the gun firmly enough, energy is lost that is needed for proper operation of the gun. When I read of a lot of jamming problems, and then the person mentions "stovepipes", I think to myself - probably user error.
Incidentally, I tend to limp-wrist .22's never .45's.
So, what I'm getting at is to read bad reviews about the above topics with a grain of salt. A Ruger P90 stove-piping a gun problem? I'm highly doubtful!!!