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Post by somery on Aug 12, 2005 0:26:42 GMT -5
i looked through the six pages we have going and didn't see anyone mention Hornady ammunition. I have been reading a lot lately that these rounds are high ranking in accuracy; anyone try these? mainly 9mm um i tried to look thru those ammo tests sticky, but it seems like a lot to read through ;D i will later also how do you pronounce this? hornaidy or whorenuddy
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Aug 12, 2005 1:51:51 GMT -5
somery; I have some of the Hornady ammo for my revolvers but I seldom use it for paper because it's so expensive. I pronouce it "whorenuddy". Because we never see television commercials of Ammunition, Gun Smiths, Holster Makers, Gun Manufacturers, or Certain Known Shooters; Pronounciations will vary for alot of names. My brother asked John Bianchi how he pronouced his name, and after telling my brother, he said that it really wasn't that important to him how people pronouced it.
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Post by somery on Aug 20, 2005 14:12:47 GMT -5
just an FYI, i just went to carters country for two boxes (25 rounds a box) and it was 30 bucks, and to academy for 6 boxes of 9mm lugerWWB for same price, so in other words 50 rounds TAP - $30 or 300 rounds WWB - $30....they sure are pretty bullets can i shoot these in a 50 foot indoor shooting range? i didn't want them to confiscate them if i brought them in....did i mention theres a range over here that you can rent to shoot fully automatics? i think its 30-40 dollars for the gun and tons for the ammo cause it goes quick thru the weapon thats cool, but theres holes all over the ceiling and sides ;D i might have over applied the smileys
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Post by TMan on Aug 20, 2005 17:17:46 GMT -5
Somery, think about it: you are getting pronunciation help from a guy in Georgia? I guess it is okay since you are in Texas. I think if I wanted to correctly pronounce something, I'd ask MLB, who lives in Western NY. ;D I'm not going to have much of a choice in the 460 S&W Magnum, it is Hornady or Cor-bon that are making it. I'll just keep telling myself: hey, it's cheaper than the 500 S&W ammo. I suppose if you bought something like a Hi-Point, that you couldn't shoot very accurately, buying accurate ammo like Hornady would be worth it.
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Post by somery on Aug 20, 2005 19:12:02 GMT -5
we southerners prefer ya'll to you's guys ;D whats the maximum safe grain limit? i noticed the grains are more in the hornady ammo...can a standard 9mm handle 200 grains?
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Aug 20, 2005 20:53:37 GMT -5
Somery, think about it: you are getting pronunciation help from a guy in Georgia? I guess it is okay since you are in Texas. I think if I wanted to correctly pronounce something, I'd ask MLB, who lives in Western NY. ; TMan; I do know, after spending six years in the military, how dialects differ among people in different geographic locations, not just in our own country but many others. A good example of this would be the pronounciation of the word Grits, a common household word used in the South but seldom heard of North of the Mason - Dixon line. Although many credit southern cultures with limited word vocabilaries, those in the south contribute it to having a much slower vocal velosity while using less words to communicate. Many words containing more than three sylables might be condensed into a shorter form to minimize lengthy, unneccesary movement of the jaw while performing other tasks. Names of people are usually condensed into nicknames, with last names having been condensed many years ago. The best way to avoid getting a nickname by others is to have a self made nick name like Joe, Tom, Bob, Bill, John, Brad, Ron, Dave, Steve, or Nick. Many of the people arriving here do so with three and four sylable names which quickly changes after a few greetings. Many people in the South continue to arrive here from elsewhere, and with them they bring their native languages and dialects. I have found none of the new comers who has yet to pick up on the southern dialect of communication, and few if any who picks up on the English language in any form or spoken dialect. ;D Here is how I pronounce Hornady = Horn uh dee.
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Post by somery on Aug 20, 2005 22:04:22 GMT -5
at carters country i kinda threw a *cough* while saying it "9mm Luger in *hornady*, and the guy asked me 9mm in what brand? i had to repeat it, and i gave it a stab, he understood then but he had to smooth it up a little ps.... i ne'er had grits ol' dang ol....
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Aug 21, 2005 0:01:36 GMT -5
we southerners prefer ya'll to you's guys ;D whats the maximum safe grain limit? i noticed the grains are more in the hornady ammo...can a standard 9mm handle 200 grains? Writing "Ya'll" might give some a good idea how the Southern dialect works, but adding the southern drawl to it, as in "Yawl", drives it home. Some refer to the Southern dialect as Broken English, while others say it's long winded. Believe it or not, there exist many dialects in the south; during my first trip to Charleston, South Carolina in 1965 I could not understand someone if they were talking fast. With the slower speaking Southern Dialects I can understand every word. The Southern drawl of the deeper south is the most classic form of speech.
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Post by TMan on Aug 21, 2005 17:33:41 GMT -5
Somery, I can't get into ammoguide.com from over here, so I don't have any background information about the case capacity of the 9mm, but 200 grains sounds high, but it depends on the powder. Some powders weigh a lot less than others do - for the same velocity.
I feel comfortable with any commercial 9mm ammo as long as it doesn't say +P or +P+. I shoot a lot of S&B, which has higher velocity. You just replace recoil springs more frequently, go to a heavier spring, or both.
DA, you have to define 'south'. "The South" refers more to rural pockets in the geographic south. If you just follow the map from, let's say Boston (God only knows where they got their speech patterns from), down to Miami, you will travel through NYC, through the Carolinas, Georgia, and then to Miami. Somewhere in the rural Carolinas/Georgia area you will be as far 'south' in speaking dialects as you will get. By the time you get to the Miami area the people will sound like they did in NYC.
The thing that surprises me is that with modern conveniences like radio, television, and drive-in movies, peoples dialects have not changed. You would think that everyone would sound like the news people on TV, which is very close to what MLB in Western NY must sound like.
Also, one of the qualifications of school teachers should be to properly speak English. The exception of course would be for classes in Ebonics, which are geared to ensure people never rise up in social status. #@$&^
Another topic: we went to see the Shanghai Acrobats perform last night. The were incredible, but on the way back to the apartment I mentioned to my wife the two small girls, that had to be under 10 years old, we could see them well because we were in 2nd row center. You could never have that happen in the U.S. The liberals would be filing class action lawsuits about the exploitation of children. The two girls would be protected in the U.S. so they could grow up properly and have meaningful work asking the liberals if they would like fries with that. These poor girls are doomed to grow up as high paid acrobats.
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Aug 21, 2005 22:10:03 GMT -5
By the time you get to the Miami area the people will sound like they did in NYC. The thing that surprises me is that with modern conveniences like radio, television, and drive-in movies, peoples dialects have not changed. Tman; Only at the Drive could one expect to find a Cuban from Miami with a NYC accent ;D. We too have various accents from around the globe. Among many of my northern friends I've had the pleasure of knowing, we only refer to each of our geographic origins to be that of North and South, with no in betweens or boundaries. somery; The heaviest bullet I've seen in the 9mm is with a 150 grain Bull-X SWC cast bullet, using 3.5 grains of powder; this one reached a velosity of 981 fps. I visited Hornady's website and found nothing heavier than a 147 grain bullet. If they do have a 9mm case with a 200 gr. bullet; I think it would not be practical for use in the smaller 9mm case. My 38 supers are the same diameter as the 9mm but gets only 1200 fps from a 147 gr. Gold Dot Hollow point bullet. If you want a very hot 9mm, start looking at the 357 sig or the 9x23 winchester. In the 38 super, I've heard of 180 gr. Nosler hollow point bullets with 9.1 grains of AA-9 powder achieve velosities of 1,012 fps. I usually go up to the .45 acp or 44 revolver cartridges if I require a bullet heavier than 200 grains.
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Post by TA on Aug 21, 2005 23:06:25 GMT -5
I have had the good fortune to work with a few good ol' southern boys on occasion. What I enjoyed the most is the colorful phrases that they would spit out at lightning speed. I would swear there is a special southern phraseology school they attended.
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Post by somery on Aug 22, 2005 0:32:34 GMT -5
lol TA thanks for clearing up about the grains in the ammo guys...i was just afraid to buy something too powerful and blowing my gun up. tman why don't you like the +p or do you mean its too much bullet for the gun?
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Post by MLB on Aug 22, 2005 9:41:01 GMT -5
we southerners prefer ya'll to you's guys ;D Certainly not claiming any title to staff linguist, but this Yankee would prefer "y'all" to "you's guys" too. ;D That sounds a bit more like NYC to me though. Awful stuff. Those from Baaaaastin are easy to pick out too. I am however close enough to Canada to pick up a tad of our northern neighbors accent when required. I hope you'll excuse the occasional trasgression, eh? I don't notice any accent while watching the national news, I always wondered if those with different accents thought it sounded funny. A southern accent is a welcome change, just ask the ladies...
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Post by MLB on Aug 22, 2005 9:49:24 GMT -5
Oh, and regarding the +p ammo, that depends on the gun. +p and +p+ ammo are "hotter" and result in higher pressures in the barrel. Some guns are good for it, some aren't. Look in your manual first.
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Aug 22, 2005 12:59:59 GMT -5
Yawl keep using "Ya'll" for the Southern form of You All; I don't know what the Asians, Russians, French, Italians, Irish, Spanish, or rest of the nation calls it but I've always just used the long jaw dropping form of Yawl. Yawl is also used in several phrases like , "See Yawl Later", "How Yawl Doin" and , "Yawl Come Back". "Yuh", the modified, less jaw dropping form of Yawl, is often substitued for "Yawl" during certain informal greetings while passing, like "How Yuh Doin", and often totally eliminated to give way for total vocal velosity, like " Hows It Goin". Try these forms of greetings among your co-workers, friends, relatives, or business contacts but I beg of you, do please refrain from using it on our forum. ;D ;D
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Post by TMan on Aug 22, 2005 17:07:35 GMT -5
I may get killed for this, but a lot of people from Georgia use the greeting: What's happen mutha...
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Post by MLB on Aug 22, 2005 19:56:17 GMT -5
"Total vocal velocity", I really like that term...
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Post by somery on Aug 22, 2005 22:01:42 GMT -5
Yawl keep using "Ya'll" for the Southern form of You All; I don't know what the Asians, Russians, French, Italians, Irish, Spanish, or rest of the nation calls it but I've always just used the long jaw dropping form of Yawl. Yawl is also used in several phrases like , "See Yawl Later", "How Yawl Doin" and , "Yawl Come Back". "Yuh", the modified, less jaw dropping form of Yawl, is often substitued for "Yawl" during certain informal greetings while passing, like "How Yuh Doin", and often totally eliminated to give way for total vocal velosity, like " Hows It Goin". Try these forms of greetings among your co-workers, friends, relatives, or business contacts but I beg of you, do please refrain from using it on our forum. ;D ;D ROFL! i laugh all the time at yawl! (sorry had to do it once!) i find that i say "eh" a lot, although i don't know too many canadians, nor do i wish to sound like one, i just love the catch phrase, now its a habit....
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Aug 22, 2005 23:07:21 GMT -5
I may get killed for this, but a lot of people from Georgia use the greeting: What's happen mutha... TMan; Thanks for bringing this one up; The shortened version to this one, is the one we are more familiar with. The more familiar version goes; " Hay Mutha_ _ _ _, Git outta thuh da_ _ car, or sidewalk version, "Hay Mutha _ _ _, gimmie yore money". "Whuts Happnin" became the basis for a popular television sitcom during the 1970s. The saying has been altered by so many , it's difficult to keep up with the more current usage. Last I heard, the more civil greeting was, "Whuts Up Dog". Like I said so many times before; Atlanta is a city of mixed inhabitants, as is the metro areas surrounding Atlanta. I haven't known what it's like to live among Georgians in more than ten years.
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