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Post by somery on Sept 30, 2005 23:02:25 GMT -5
i read in a magazine that .380 has the same diameter as a 9mm, but is a shorter length. Their words were that a .380 is a 9mm short. In fact they even compared it to .22lr and .22shorts. does this mean i can load the pro-9 with .380 ammo? i think i remember asking at one point (in this forum) what the standard equivalent of 9mm was and i think the answer was that the 9mm round was smaller then .380. Who do i believe? i'll have to modify/update with proper mag name/issue number when i look at it again....
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Post by TMan on Oct 1, 2005 1:19:30 GMT -5
I think the 380 was called a 9mm Herz (not sure of spelling and I can't get into ammoguide for some reason). Whatever the spelling, translated into English yields the word short, which I can spell.
The 9mm, 380, 38 Special, 357 Magnum are all roughly the same size diameter bullet, but the case lengths vary drastically. It wouldn't feed well in your 9mm gun.
One of my regular shooting buddies has a Sig 232, which is chambered in 380, and he regrets it. The 380 ammo costs more than 9mm. When it comes to cost/round, the 9mm is hard to beat. Even the 32ACP rounds are more expensive than 9mm. Also, it has been years since I paid full price for a box of 9mm. I stockpile it when it goes on sale. Other people call it hoarding, but I thing stockpiling it sounds better. Mom was part Scotch. I'll never know what Dad was because of the Germans, maybe he was Jewish? Anyhow, I know how to pinch a penny.
When I fired his Sig, I was surprised at the recoil. I was expecting much less. I'm glad I shot it though because I was considering buying one. I would not have been happy.
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Post by 5ontarget on Oct 1, 2005 6:23:47 GMT -5
TMan you are close.... .380=9mm Kurz = 9mm corto= literal translation from German/Spanish 9mm short.
Somrey, If your gun is chambered for 9mm=9mm luger= =9X19=9mm parabellum, do not use .380 in it.
a .380 case is 9x17, a Makarov in 9X18, and a 9mm parabellum is 9X19, there are also some bigger that 9x19, but these are much less common.
While a .380 may feed in your 9x19, it will likely not extract, and could potentially create a nasty little jam. Feed only the ammo listed on the barell of the gun. Besides, like Tman said, .380 is much more expensive than 9mm.
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Post by NeilCasper on Oct 1, 2005 11:46:15 GMT -5
Sontarget nailed it.
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Post by MLB on Oct 2, 2005 20:17:24 GMT -5
You definitely get good info on this forum. I can't think of anything to add to 5OT's response on the .380 / 9mm. Regarding the .22lr & .22shorts; many rifles & revolvers chambered for .22lr will also safely chamber .22 shorts. I just wanted to contrast that to the 9mm and 9mm kurz. See caliber marking on a typical ppk below:  |
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Post by TMan on Oct 2, 2005 21:19:12 GMT -5
See caliber marking??? I just got new glasses too. Between the checkup, frames, and lens (most of the cost is the special lens), it was over $700. I want my money back. I still can't see.
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Post by MLB on Oct 3, 2005 8:35:57 GMT -5
I was lazy and just grabbed a stock ppk picture to post. The resolution isn't that great. I don't have a detail pic of the slide markings handy though.
It's labeled: "Cal. 9mm kurz / 380 ACP".
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