Post by XavierBreath on Mar 30, 2004 14:13:30 GMT -5
I received my P7 from SOG on December 17, 2003 one day after I ordered it. The price was $645. The pistol was advertised as a P7M8. It was a PSP, which was the German Police pistol. SOG later corrected their ad and item number. The German Police P7 PSP did not have the cheesy PSP logo on the slide like US imported ones did, however. This pistol was definitely in 80% or so shape. I did not pay $25 for handpicking. My P7 was dirty, and had a box but no tools. It came with an original manual in German. I had ordered a spare magazine for $24, but they sent me a Star BM magazine instead. I called to correct this, and the cleaning tools and firing pin tool as well as the correct magazine are being sent. So far I am moderately pleased but not thrilled over the deal. Maybe shooting the pistol will change that..............
December 18 Update:
I went to the range today with my freshly cleaned and lubed P7. I took along two value packs of Winchester White Box and a box of Federal HydraShoks. I loaded a magazine with one round, and began my routine of checking out an unknown used pistol. After several low round magazines, all was well, and I loaded a full magazine. The inherent accuracy of this fixed barrel 9mm was amazing. The area at the front of the trigger guard began to heat up as the pistol continued to digest ammo. The fluted chamber left soot on the casings, but did not seem to score them as severly as the flutes on my CETME does.
At round 119 I got a stoppage. The trigger would not release the firing mechanism. Hmmmmmmm perhaps a spring broke, although I did not see any rust on any spring while detailing the pistol the previous evening. I pulled off the grips and found that the transmission lever, part #24 had broken. So much for Heckler and Koch's unbreakable pistols.........
I placed a call to SOG, and they agreed to ship me a replacement pistol. I had my FFL dealer make the arrangements, and we boxed up the pistol to be sent back. To be continued on receipt of the second P7.
December 29,2003 Update: After having received no pistol and no magazine from SOG, I called their customer service number today. after giving my authorization codes, I was told that both the magazine and the pistol have been entered into the computer, and a replacement should be shipped within "a couple of days". Twelve days and counting..................
January 5 2004 Update: My replacement HK P7 arrived today from SOG. This pistol was an easy 90%. There is no rust and no freckling. It had very little finish wear inside the pistol. In fact, it looked like it had seen less than 50-100 rounds. Any wear was holster wear on this one. The slide bluing had begun to turn plum, which may lead me to hard chrome it in the future. I have a distaste for purple pistols.
P7 #2 had a 2mm high CAI importer's mark on the left of the frame. It came in the original plastic box, without a manual, but it had the firing pin wrench in the box. (I guess I should have kept the manual out of the first box, but being the honest sort, I sent it back as it was sent to me.) The extra magazine is being sent to my home, and has yet to arrive. Once again I disassembled, cleaned and lubed a P7 PSP in anticipation of a good range day the next morning.
January 6, 2004 Range Report: I took the replacement P7 to the range this morning, along with 500 rounds of Winchester White Box, hand loads, and a box of Federal HydraShoks.I also took my Ruger MKII to shoot while the P7 cooled down, and to gauge my marksmanship with, since it is a known gun. I performed my usual routine of checking out an unknown pistol with live fire on the P7. There was really no need to shoot another pistol to see if my aim was off. This P7 was a one hole shooter at 25 feet. After 15 magazines of ammo, the little shooter began to heat up to the point of being a tad uncomfortable. I laid it on the table under a vent fan, and went to my Ruger for a while.
Once the P7 cooled down, I went at it again. After I had shot close to 600 rounds total, I can say I am pleased. I had no failures of any sort. I'm hoping the breakage on the first P7 was a fluke, as this one would make a great carry gun. I suppose anything can break, and even Heckler & Koch is not immune to Murphy's Law. After a breakage on a make of pistol though, I approach carry with a like example with a bit of trepidation. Perhaps I should put another 600 rounds through it and see.....
January 25,2004: I am now at over 1200 rounds of 9mm through the replacement pistol. I am considering sending the slide to Fords to be hard chromed. The P7 series of HK pistols must be shot to be loved. This one is a keeper, and eventhough I recieved a bum pistol with P7#1, SOG made good on the deal. You are not likely to find a HK squeezecocker in good working order at this price, let alone one you can return if you experience problems.
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December 18 Update:
I went to the range today with my freshly cleaned and lubed P7. I took along two value packs of Winchester White Box and a box of Federal HydraShoks. I loaded a magazine with one round, and began my routine of checking out an unknown used pistol. After several low round magazines, all was well, and I loaded a full magazine. The inherent accuracy of this fixed barrel 9mm was amazing. The area at the front of the trigger guard began to heat up as the pistol continued to digest ammo. The fluted chamber left soot on the casings, but did not seem to score them as severly as the flutes on my CETME does.
At round 119 I got a stoppage. The trigger would not release the firing mechanism. Hmmmmmmm perhaps a spring broke, although I did not see any rust on any spring while detailing the pistol the previous evening. I pulled off the grips and found that the transmission lever, part #24 had broken. So much for Heckler and Koch's unbreakable pistols.........
I placed a call to SOG, and they agreed to ship me a replacement pistol. I had my FFL dealer make the arrangements, and we boxed up the pistol to be sent back. To be continued on receipt of the second P7.
December 29,2003 Update: After having received no pistol and no magazine from SOG, I called their customer service number today. after giving my authorization codes, I was told that both the magazine and the pistol have been entered into the computer, and a replacement should be shipped within "a couple of days". Twelve days and counting..................
January 5 2004 Update: My replacement HK P7 arrived today from SOG. This pistol was an easy 90%. There is no rust and no freckling. It had very little finish wear inside the pistol. In fact, it looked like it had seen less than 50-100 rounds. Any wear was holster wear on this one. The slide bluing had begun to turn plum, which may lead me to hard chrome it in the future. I have a distaste for purple pistols.
P7 #2 had a 2mm high CAI importer's mark on the left of the frame. It came in the original plastic box, without a manual, but it had the firing pin wrench in the box. (I guess I should have kept the manual out of the first box, but being the honest sort, I sent it back as it was sent to me.) The extra magazine is being sent to my home, and has yet to arrive. Once again I disassembled, cleaned and lubed a P7 PSP in anticipation of a good range day the next morning.
January 6, 2004 Range Report: I took the replacement P7 to the range this morning, along with 500 rounds of Winchester White Box, hand loads, and a box of Federal HydraShoks.I also took my Ruger MKII to shoot while the P7 cooled down, and to gauge my marksmanship with, since it is a known gun. I performed my usual routine of checking out an unknown pistol with live fire on the P7. There was really no need to shoot another pistol to see if my aim was off. This P7 was a one hole shooter at 25 feet. After 15 magazines of ammo, the little shooter began to heat up to the point of being a tad uncomfortable. I laid it on the table under a vent fan, and went to my Ruger for a while.
Once the P7 cooled down, I went at it again. After I had shot close to 600 rounds total, I can say I am pleased. I had no failures of any sort. I'm hoping the breakage on the first P7 was a fluke, as this one would make a great carry gun. I suppose anything can break, and even Heckler & Koch is not immune to Murphy's Law. After a breakage on a make of pistol though, I approach carry with a like example with a bit of trepidation. Perhaps I should put another 600 rounds through it and see.....
January 25,2004: I am now at over 1200 rounds of 9mm through the replacement pistol. I am considering sending the slide to Fords to be hard chromed. The P7 series of HK pistols must be shot to be loved. This one is a keeper, and eventhough I recieved a bum pistol with P7#1, SOG made good on the deal. You are not likely to find a HK squeezecocker in good working order at this price, let alone one you can return if you experience problems.
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