Post by TMan on Apr 13, 2007 9:17:15 GMT -5
The S&W 22A has a reputation second only to the Sigma. However, I've held them, looked at them, liked the weight, and then last week Cabela's had them for $169, which is below dealer's cost.
The trigger was marginal: 4 lbs with only a barely perceptible amount of creep. What bothered me the most was the amount of pressure needed for take-up - the trigger return spring was way too heavy.
A search on the internet for detailed disassembly yielded nothing, which is unlike all the information about the Beretta Neos disassembly.
Numrich has a schematic for the gun, and I'll use their names and numbers for parts as I describe the disassembly.
After field-stripping remove the grips by removing the 4 identical screws then pry the grips apart at the rear where the beaver-tail would be. Then take a moment to look at how things connect.
The anchor leg of the trigger return spring (48) hooks onto the trigger bar assembly (47). The trigger bar assembly connects the trigger to the sear (35) and also has a vertical post that serves as a disconnecter. In order for this connection to work the bar must be in the raised position. However, along the left side of the frame is a metal bar and a spring that aren't in the Numrich schematic. When there isn't a magazine inserted, the spring pushes the lever down and it hooks the trigger bar assembly and prevents it from connecting the sear.
The magazine disconnect is passive i.e. unlike the Browning Hi-Power, which is active when you squeeze trigger and adds to the trigger pull weight, this magazine disconnect has no effect on the trigger operation.
I've failed to fully insert a magazine on a Buckmark and had it fall out while I was shooting. With the S&W magazine disconnect, I have to fully insert the magazine in order for the gun to work. In other words, I'm going to leave the parts in there because I see value in doing so.
Along the back-strap you can see the mainspring (22) and the mainspring guide (23), which I would refer to as the hammer strut, but that is just me. What you probably can't see at this point is that behind the mainspring is the sear spring (36), which is a leaf spring.
Looking down from the top of the pistol you can see the ejector (3) and the hammer assembly (12). Notice the roll pin that they call the takedown hammer stop pin (44).
Before getting into the disassembly, go back to look at the trigger bar assembly. The trigger return spring is serving a dual purpose: it returns the trigger, and it cams the trigger bar assembly upwards. So, if we get too aggressive in trying to remove the tension on this spring we could end up with a situation where the trigger bar assembly doesn't always go upwards far enough to catch the sear.
Now the tricky part: see that big black metal plate on the left side of the pistol. You have to remove that. Pry up on the upper left side and stick a popsicle stick under it. Then pry up on the lower left corner and at the same time push the plate to the right to unhook it from the notch in the hammer pin (13). You can then remove the manual safety (25) by lifting it out and the magazine disconnect along with its spring.
The trigger bar is being held in place by the leg of the trigger return spring. Using a small hook, pull the spring away and then pull out the trigger bar. You can then push out the trigger pin (46) and remove the trigger (45) and trigger return spring (48).
The mainspring and mainspring guide appear to be captive under the frame and are under tension even when the gun isn't cocked - trouble. However, if you could move the hammer further forward, but you can't because the roll pin that holds the ejector is in the way. Using a suitable punch, drive the roll pin to the right from the left side of the frame until it is totally contained by the right side of the frame. In other words: no need to remove it completely, just get it out of the way.
Now you can move the hammer forward, and by applying slight pressure you can push out the hammer pin from the left. Now find the hammer spring.
The sear is easy to remove: push out the pin and remove the sear and sear spring.
At this point, looking at how the sear and hammer mated, and how much the replacement parts cost, I thought it would be prudent not to get aggressive in changing the engagement angles. Therefore, I lightly stoned the surfaces and then polished them with Flitz and the Dremel. I also polished the trigger bar.
Reassembly, as they always say, is the reverse of disassembly. A couple of hints:
The sear spring can be a little difficult. You can move the sear with your thumb over the part that protrudes from the frame and is hooked by the trigger bar.
I found it easier to not push the hammer pin all the way through, but just enough to hold the hammer. Then I inserted the ejector and drove the roll pin back through it. I then made sure that the lower hole in the ejector lined up perfectly with the trigger pin and pushed it through.
Now what did I do with the trigger pull gauge...
Modified to add: Forgot to mention how you get that black metal plate back into place. It is basically a spring in its own right. So lightly clamp it in place and then using a suitable size screwdriver placed between it and the safety lever, pry it into place.
I found the trigger pull gauge and it reads 2-3/4 lbs. With the wide trigger, it really feels great. Now if it would warm up enough outside to go shoot...
The trigger was marginal: 4 lbs with only a barely perceptible amount of creep. What bothered me the most was the amount of pressure needed for take-up - the trigger return spring was way too heavy.
A search on the internet for detailed disassembly yielded nothing, which is unlike all the information about the Beretta Neos disassembly.
Numrich has a schematic for the gun, and I'll use their names and numbers for parts as I describe the disassembly.
After field-stripping remove the grips by removing the 4 identical screws then pry the grips apart at the rear where the beaver-tail would be. Then take a moment to look at how things connect.
The anchor leg of the trigger return spring (48) hooks onto the trigger bar assembly (47). The trigger bar assembly connects the trigger to the sear (35) and also has a vertical post that serves as a disconnecter. In order for this connection to work the bar must be in the raised position. However, along the left side of the frame is a metal bar and a spring that aren't in the Numrich schematic. When there isn't a magazine inserted, the spring pushes the lever down and it hooks the trigger bar assembly and prevents it from connecting the sear.
The magazine disconnect is passive i.e. unlike the Browning Hi-Power, which is active when you squeeze trigger and adds to the trigger pull weight, this magazine disconnect has no effect on the trigger operation.
I've failed to fully insert a magazine on a Buckmark and had it fall out while I was shooting. With the S&W magazine disconnect, I have to fully insert the magazine in order for the gun to work. In other words, I'm going to leave the parts in there because I see value in doing so.
Along the back-strap you can see the mainspring (22) and the mainspring guide (23), which I would refer to as the hammer strut, but that is just me. What you probably can't see at this point is that behind the mainspring is the sear spring (36), which is a leaf spring.
Looking down from the top of the pistol you can see the ejector (3) and the hammer assembly (12). Notice the roll pin that they call the takedown hammer stop pin (44).
Before getting into the disassembly, go back to look at the trigger bar assembly. The trigger return spring is serving a dual purpose: it returns the trigger, and it cams the trigger bar assembly upwards. So, if we get too aggressive in trying to remove the tension on this spring we could end up with a situation where the trigger bar assembly doesn't always go upwards far enough to catch the sear.
Now the tricky part: see that big black metal plate on the left side of the pistol. You have to remove that. Pry up on the upper left side and stick a popsicle stick under it. Then pry up on the lower left corner and at the same time push the plate to the right to unhook it from the notch in the hammer pin (13). You can then remove the manual safety (25) by lifting it out and the magazine disconnect along with its spring.
The trigger bar is being held in place by the leg of the trigger return spring. Using a small hook, pull the spring away and then pull out the trigger bar. You can then push out the trigger pin (46) and remove the trigger (45) and trigger return spring (48).
The mainspring and mainspring guide appear to be captive under the frame and are under tension even when the gun isn't cocked - trouble. However, if you could move the hammer further forward, but you can't because the roll pin that holds the ejector is in the way. Using a suitable punch, drive the roll pin to the right from the left side of the frame until it is totally contained by the right side of the frame. In other words: no need to remove it completely, just get it out of the way.
Now you can move the hammer forward, and by applying slight pressure you can push out the hammer pin from the left. Now find the hammer spring.
The sear is easy to remove: push out the pin and remove the sear and sear spring.
At this point, looking at how the sear and hammer mated, and how much the replacement parts cost, I thought it would be prudent not to get aggressive in changing the engagement angles. Therefore, I lightly stoned the surfaces and then polished them with Flitz and the Dremel. I also polished the trigger bar.
Reassembly, as they always say, is the reverse of disassembly. A couple of hints:
The sear spring can be a little difficult. You can move the sear with your thumb over the part that protrudes from the frame and is hooked by the trigger bar.
I found it easier to not push the hammer pin all the way through, but just enough to hold the hammer. Then I inserted the ejector and drove the roll pin back through it. I then made sure that the lower hole in the ejector lined up perfectly with the trigger pin and pushed it through.
Now what did I do with the trigger pull gauge...
Modified to add: Forgot to mention how you get that black metal plate back into place. It is basically a spring in its own right. So lightly clamp it in place and then using a suitable size screwdriver placed between it and the safety lever, pry it into place.
I found the trigger pull gauge and it reads 2-3/4 lbs. With the wide trigger, it really feels great. Now if it would warm up enough outside to go shoot...