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Post by "DoubleAction" on Oct 15, 2009 2:42:13 GMT -5
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Jun 28, 2010 19:13:06 GMT -5
Gun rights case: Supreme Court rules on second amendment
The Supreme Court Ruled in Favor of The 2nd
Thread Started on Jun 26, 2008, 10:15pm After listening to the oral arguments, from these Attorneys, I'm convinced that the Supreme Court acted entirely on their own, in ruling on this case. The vote was 5 to 4, therefore, I feel there are 4 Justices on The Supreme Court who would have been hung at another time in this nation's history.
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Post by ironhorse on Jun 28, 2010 20:49:17 GMT -5
I'll take the win. A win by a little is as good as a win by a lot.
You'll never convince the liberal side of the court that they are supposed to uphold the Constitution.
ironhorse
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Jun 28, 2010 21:46:40 GMT -5
I'm wondering why it took 2 years, after the Second Amendment was voted on by The Supreme Court, to reach a conclusion in Chicago
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Post by moonclip1 on Jun 29, 2010 10:02:11 GMT -5
Lower Court Background The trial court entered judgment in favor of the City of Chicago on December 18, 2008. The decision was appealed to the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals and combined with a similar case, NRA v. Chicago. Oral argument was May 26, 2009, and the court issued its opinion on June 28, 2009, affirming the trial court's decision that the Chicago and Oak Park gun regulations pass constitutional muster.
The Second Amendment Foundation appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court for certiorari on behalf of their plaintiffs. Certiorari for McDonald was granted on September 30, 2009. The NRA separately filed on behalf of their plaintiffs, and on January 25, 2010 the Supreme Court granted the NRA's motion for divided argument. Oral argument took place on March 2, 2010. On June 28, 2010, the High Court ruled in a 5-4 decision that the Second Amendment was incorporated under the Fourteenth Amendment, subjecting Chicago's gun ordinances to the requirements of the Federal Second Amendment.
......moon
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Post by MLB on Jun 29, 2010 10:51:25 GMT -5
It's a good step, but just the foundation. In practice, you still can't carry in Chigago or DC. Still a lot of work to be done before it can be practically applied.
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Jun 29, 2010 13:47:04 GMT -5
High court strikes down Chicago handgun ban One of News Videos : Now Brady Campaign is offering their assistance to rewrite The City Chicago's gun laws; ;D ;D ;D
Does anyone actually take these idiots serous ?
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Jun 29, 2010 15:05:12 GMT -5
Paul Helmke needs to be "Bitch Slapped"
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Jun 29, 2010 16:31:15 GMT -5
Ron Miller: "The 'New' Face Of Gun Rights: Blacks With Guns"
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Post by mtnboomer on Jun 29, 2010 18:27:15 GMT -5
I wouldn't look for the Chicago gun laws to be repealed any time soon. They same thing happened in D.C. and nothing has happened there so far! The cities will challenge it in local and state courts for months of years to come.
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Post by moonclip1 on Jun 30, 2010 7:25:31 GMT -5
Paul Helmke needs to be "Bitch Slapped"
Amen brother! ......moon
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Jun 30, 2010 22:29:38 GMT -5
Wouldn't it be whole a lot better, to just move away from Chicago ?
Or how about electing another Mayor ?
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Post by 5ontarget on Jul 1, 2010 12:58:34 GMT -5
I wouldn't look for the Chicago gun laws to be repealed any time soon. They same thing happened in D.C. and nothing has happened there so far! The cities will challenge it in local and state courts for months of years to come. agreed, and then they will continue with ponderous permits, registration, and restrictions (can't own this gun, can own this kind but only of this barrel length, etc) I see them passing an ammunition ban (or at least a really high tax) and a yearly tax/registration of some astronomical amount to discourage legal gun ownership.
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Jul 1, 2010 17:51:09 GMT -5
The Red Tape of our Government.
We have a lot of people relocating from Chicago to the county where I live. I already don't know what to think about them, because, they like carry their own political opinions and beliefs every where they go. Many Chicagoans are seeking high political offices here, which includes seats in Congress and our State Legislature.
I fear that one day, Chicago will be running this nation if this keeps up.
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Post by 19and41 on Jul 1, 2010 19:54:13 GMT -5
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Post by mtnboomer on Jul 1, 2010 23:22:51 GMT -5
By DON BABWIN, Associated Press Writer Don Babwin, Associated Press Writer
CHICAGO – With the city's gun ban certain to be overturned, Mayor Richard Daley on Thursday introduced what city officials say is the strictest handgun ordinance in the United States. The measure, which draws from ordinances around the country, would ban gun shops in Chicago and prohibit gun owners from stepping outside their homes, even onto their porches or garages, with a handgun. Daley announced his ordinance at a park on the city's South Side three days after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that Americans have a right to own a gun for self-defense anywhere they live. The City Council is expected to vote on it Friday. "As long as I'm mayor, we will never give up or give in to gun violence that continues to threaten every part of our nation, including Chicago," said Daley, who was flanked by activists, city officials and the parents of a teenager whose son was shot and killed on a city bus while shielding a friend. The ordinance, which Daley urged the City Council to pass, also would :
• Limit the number of handguns residents can register to one per month and prohibit residents from having more than one handgun in operating order at any given time. • Require residents in homes with children to keep them in lock boxes or equipped with trigger locks. • Require prospective gun owners to take a four-hour class and one-hour training at a gun range. They would have to leave the city for training because Chicago prohibits new gun ranges and limits the use of existing ranges to police officers. Those restrictions were similar to those in an ordinance passed in Washington, D.C., after the high court struck down its ban two years ago. • Prohibit people from owning a gun if they were convicted of a violent crime, domestic violence or two or more convictions for driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs. Residents convicted of a gun offense would have to register with the police department. • Calls for the police department to maintain a registry of every handgun owner in the city, with the names and addresses to be made available to police officers, firefighters and other emergency responders.
Those who already have handguns in the city — which has been illegal since the city's ban was approved 28 years ago — would have 90 days to register those weapons, according to the proposed ordinance. Residents convicted of violating the city's ordinance can face a fine up to $5,000 and be locked up for as long as 90 days for a first offense and a fine of up to $10,000 and as long as six months behind bars for subsequent convictions. "We've gone farther than anyone else ever has," said Corporation Counsel Mara Georges. Still, the mayor, whose office is trying to craft an ordinance that will withstand legal challenges, had to back off some provisions he'd hoped to include, including requiring gun owners to insure their weapons and restricting each resident to one handgun. Georges said it would be expensive for homeowners to include guns on their homeowners' and renters' insurance policies, so such a requirement could be seen as being discriminatory to the city's poorer residents. Limiting the number of handguns could be seen as discriminatory to people who owned weapons before the city's ban went into effect in 1982 or before they moved into the city. "We can limit the place in which those handguns can be located," she said, before adding a not-so-veiled swipe at the court: "For instance, the Supreme court does not want them coming into the courthouse." Still, Daley indicated that no matter what was included in the ordinance, he expects legal challenges. "Everybody has a right to sue," he said.
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Jul 2, 2010 12:06:23 GMT -5
Thanks Boomer; Does Richard Daley know that criminals don't abide by city ordinances ?
Or Federal and State Laws ?
Dummycrats ;D
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Post by ironhorse on Jul 2, 2010 22:32:33 GMT -5
Thanks Boomer; Does Richard Daley know that criminals don't abide by city ordinances ? Or Federal and State Laws ? Dummycrats ;D I'm pretty sure that Daley's organization could be considered a criminal enterprise. I'm sure that he has all the hired guns that the taxpayer's money can buy. Why this empire has been allowed to exist for all these years proves that if you are the government crime does pay. ironhorse
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