Georgia Arms

[TBT]

Anyone know what's up with Georgia Arms lack of ability in producing the 9mm round? DA turned me onto them a while back and I love their product. haven't been able to get anything in 9mm from them in a good long while though.

["DoubleAction"]

TBT; Ever since I first introduced Georgia Arms to the members, their sales has took off like a wild fire. I mostly buy in bulk and I assume that most people also does the same. The 9mm and the .45acp is a hot seller at the moment, given the fact that supplies are low all over. People have been stocking up and there might be a shortage of brass in some markets.

Go ahead and place your order, then play the waiting game.

["DoubleAction"]

TBT; I've might second thoughts on tracking the cost of copper & zinc during the past two years.

[5ontarget]

I really need to start reloading, I've been saving brass for a while and have a couple thousand 9mm cases.

["DoubleAction"]

Dec 23, 2009 8:51:16 GMT -5 5ontarget said:

I really need to start reloading, I've been saving brass for a while and have a couple thousand 9mm cases.

5ontarget; I sent off to The National Reloaders Association for some brochure a few years ago, and they sent catalogs, plans for a bench, forms, and all kinds of stuff. I didn't pursue it because I didn't have anymore space to spare.

["DoubleAction"]

Copper

Just I Suspected The Government Is Behind This

Feds Undercut Ammo Supply

Posted: March 17, 2009
9:00 pm Eastern

By Drew Zahn
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

One of the companies that brought attention to the issue is Georgia Arms, which for the last 15 years has been purchasing fired brass casings from the Department of Defense and private government surplus liquidators. The military collects the discarded casings from fired rounds, then sells them through liquidators to companies like Georgia Arms that remanufacture the casings into ammunition for the law enforcement and civilian gun owner communities.

But earlier this month, Georgia Arms received a canceled order, informed by its supplier that the government now requires fired brass casings be mutilated, in other words, destroyed to a scrap metal state.

The policy change, handed down from the Department of Defense through the Defense Logistics Agency, cut a supply leg out from underneath ammunition manufacturers.

The policy compelled Georgia Arms to cancel all sales of .223 and .308 ammunition, rounds used, respectively, in semi-automatic and deer hunting rifles, until further notice. Sharch Manufacturing, Inc. had announced the same cancellation of its .223 and .308 brass reloading components.

"They just reclassified brass to allow destruction of it, based on what?" Georgia Arms owner Larry Haynie asked WND. "We've been 'going green' for the last dozen years, and brass is one of the most recyclable materials out there. A cartridge case can be used over and over again. And now we're going to destroy it based on what? We don't want the civilian public to have it? It's a government injustice."

Firearm sales have spiked since the election of a perceived anti-gun president, and Americans stockpiling bullets have produced a stressed ammunition market.

The Orlando Sentinel reports months of steady, heavy buying have left gun dealers in Florida facing shortages of ammunition.

"The survivalist in all of us comes out," John Ritz, manager of a Florida shooting range, told the Sentinel. "It's more about protecting what you have."

"People are just stockpiling," said a spokeswoman for Georgia Arms, which has seen bullet sales jump 100 percent since the election. "A gun is just like a car. If you can't get gas, you can't use it."

WND contacted the Defense Logistics Agency, the Department of Defense's largest combat support agency, several times seeking comment or explanation for the policy change but received none.

The National Rifle Association confirmed to WND that the DLA had been instructed to require the scrapping of the brass casings but declined further comment.

Other gun advocates, however, sounded off on the issue, eyeing the change in government policy with suspicion and filling the blogosphere with speculation that the effects of the policy change may be deliberate.

"It is an end-run around Congress. They don't need to try to ban guns – they don't need to fight a massive battle to attempt gun registration, or limit 'assault' weapon sales," writes firearm instructor and author Gordon Hutchinson on his The Shootist blog. "Nope. All they have to do is limit the amount of ammunition available to the civilian market, and when bullets dry up, guns will be useless."

A writer named Owen at the Boots & Sabers blog suspected the policy change was an effort by an anti-gun administration to raise the cost of ammunition.

"This policy didn't come out of the blue," wrote Owen. "The Commander in Chief is clearly sending a message to gun owners that they should be paying more for ammunition. If he can't do it through regulatory action, he'll do it by forcing ammunition manufacturers to spend more on production."

Hutchinson reports Georgia Arms was manufacturing over 1 million rounds of .223 ammunition every month, but without the ability to purchase expended military ammunition, the company might have been forced to lay off up to half its workforce.

www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=92095

[TBT]

What a shame.

It didn't look to me like GA was accepting orders for the 9mm when last I checked DA. I think it read something like "no back order, check back later" or something. Really liked that stuff and was even considering using it for my carry ammo since I shoot so much of what I carry (1-200 rounds a month).

["DoubleAction"]

Georgia Arms makes some of the best ammo for my pistols, that I ever used.

[TBT]

Yeah, I really hope they find another supply chain. I'm sure they will still have issues producing the same quantity but maybe they could get to a point where they are taking orders again anyway.

Anyone ever use Fiocchi ammunition? I just ordered 300 rounds of the Fiocchi 9XTPC Extrema Ammunition. $20 per box of 50. These use the Hornady XTP bullet and are loaded to 1290FPS. From what I've seen reviews of this ammunition are really pretty good. The biggest complaint I've heard is that sometimes their velocities aren't consistent, the people that have put them on a chrono have gotten between 1245 and 1300.

See, I would love to shoot what I carry almost exclusively. That's getting expensive with Double Tap at $40/50rds shipped (on average, I do order bulk). Two trips to the range per month is starting to get really expensive. I plan to test this ammunition in my M&P and consider carrying it. If I can keep 500-1500 rounds in stock and shoot it near exclusively it might be worth it to me.

["DoubleAction"]

Anyone ever use Fiocchi ammunition?

TBT; I have, but I don't remember which caliber. I have it in .40 S&W and several others. If anything was wrong with it, I would have it on my lower shelf with my machine gun ammo.

[MLB]

I picked up a box of 50 Rem UMC .223 cal for a friend's Christmas present recently. I was surprised to get it for $21. I expected it to be more.

[TMan]

Anyone ever use Fiocchi ammunition?

Yes, I use it all the time. I think it is a little hotter than Winchester or Remington. I've never had a failure with it. I like the smaller boxes that they package it in too.

[TBT]

Just noticed while browsing that Georgia Arms has the 147gr. +p 9mm in stock right now. Won't let you order more than 400 rounds though. Not sure what I think of the 147gr 9mm loading though. Was always a 124-127gr kind of guy. Might order some while it's in stock.