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Post by TMan on Mar 13, 2010 8:32:11 GMT -5
Camfour (2010 Distributor of the Year - according to their web-page). Just received shipment of Colt Night Commander 04091HCC a Talo Exclusive. I am a fan of Talo, although some of their modifications are just a little too wild for me. Normally, I check daily for new Talo guns, but only those that are made by Colt. I then have to decide if I should order one or not. Having become a Crimson Trace convert for defensive pistols, I'm now wondering - why have a gun with night sights? For one thing, I think night sights will only be visible for the first shot. After that first shot, the muzzleblast will likely prevent you from seeing the night sights for the next minute or two. (Probably gets worse with age - everything else does). Even though this Commander has a steel frame, I'm going to pass on it. The other thing that turns me off a little from a looks standpoint is the trigger. Sorry about the small picture, but it is all I could get.  |
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Mar 13, 2010 9:59:02 GMT -5
TMan; The Solid Triggers are making a comeback, in the world of the fashion conscience gun owners.
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Post by TMan on Mar 13, 2010 12:32:13 GMT -5
... in the world of the fashion conscience gun owners. Oh God!!! You know that is something good about my wife - she doesn't pay any attention to fashions. She still wears clothes that she bought 20 years ago. I guess the other good thing is that she doesn't have much from Chanel. I saw this georgeous Chanel suit last year, but she didn't care much for it. Although I was relieved ($7,000 price tab), I think she would have looked great in it. She buys a lot of Escada and some Armani, but they are less than half was Chanel gets. I'm not knocking Chanel. The workmanship is incredible, but the sizes run small. In Escada she is size 4, but would take a 6 in Chanel. You would think they would go the opposite way to make women feel happy being in a smaller size. Chanel, In the gun world would be Korth. I think I remember you telling me something about the reason for having a skeltonized trigger because it makes the trigger lighter, but I don't remember why you want the mass of the trigger to be less. Do you remember? |
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Mar 13, 2010 19:16:26 GMT -5
Sometimes; I prefer the Dlask Triggers, with magnesium shoe and the titanium stirrup. In my own words; Weight of the trigger plays a part in decreasing the amount pressure, it takes to engage the disconnector plate. Sometimes; The amount of lubricant will retard the action of the fire control system. A heavy trigger shoe, might go good with a heavy trigger pull, but not for target shooting and my own purposes , I prefer otherwise. How does that sound ? |
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Post by MLB on Mar 13, 2010 23:11:41 GMT -5
The batteries on anything I need seem to be dead at the most inconvienent time. Tritium night sights have no working parts and no batteries to die. Well, after 10 years or so they dim I hear, but it's not like they just stop working.
That, and I never liked all of the gadgets hanging off of the dustcover.
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Post by TMan on Mar 14, 2010 7:26:56 GMT -5
...I never liked all of the gadgets hanging off of the dustcover. I don't think I slept enough last night - what is a "dustcover"? I've tried the little ones that hang off the bottom of the rail, and I didn't like them. These are different because there is very little difference between having a gun without it or with it. They are integrated into the grips and just a little bit sticking out of the right side. I hadn't thought about the batteries. Yes they do have a shelf life and it is surprising how fast the years go by. I've had a problem with both of the portable phones in the garage. They are the same age, and I didn't think they were that old - then I thought about it. I put them in after the little episode of accidently locking myself out of the house, the alarm going off, the phone ringing, and then the police arriving all within 5 minutes. That was right after I bought the Aurora, and that was in 1995 - 15years ago!!! The batteries are expensive, but new phone (set of 3) only cost me $50. Before someone says - why couldn't you just go into the house and answer the phone? We have "fixed call forwarding"; if I don't answer after the 4th ring, it automatically switches to my cell phone, and I never know where I last left the cell phone.  Anyhow, you made me think that I should keep track of how old the batteries are in the handguns. I used to do that with the back-up battery for the alarm system, but then I went to using car batteries for back-up, and they have the date marked on them. |
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Mar 14, 2010 17:45:27 GMT -5
To some; They might call it the "Full Length Dust Cover" by referring to it to "Full Length Frame". That is that easy way to explain what a "Dust Cover" is.
Frame 1911, Carbon Steel Full Dust Cover -Checkered
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Post by MLB on Mar 14, 2010 21:05:18 GMT -5
No one slept enough last night. ;D
That is a rather odd name for the front end of the frame isn't it? I love gadgets, but I'm more comfrortable with open sights.
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Post by TBT on Mar 15, 2010 14:13:25 GMT -5
I've never been a big believer in night sights or lasers to be honest (I find each to be more of an offensive addition, rather than a defensive addition) although I think that they are a sound addition if you want to spend the money on them. I think the chances of either one actually aiding you in a defensive encounter is rather slim but then again getting into a defensive encounter is a slim chance as well. Might as well prepare for even the remotest possibility if it's feasible for you.
BTW. I like the lasers more than the night sights but the only laser system that I really like to any real degree is the crimson trace and I hate what it does to my M&P grip (they advertise that it's closest to the medium size grip but that's blatant false advertising, it's almost identical to the large).
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Post by TMan on Mar 15, 2010 22:07:42 GMT -5
Ahhh, see I never thought about the size of the grips because I have XL paws.
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Post by TBT on Mar 16, 2010 15:48:41 GMT -5
I'm a 5' 7" Polish white guy. I have little tiny circus people hands. It's kind of creepy.
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Post by TMan on Mar 16, 2010 16:51:46 GMT -5
Well I'm also 5' 7" and not only do I have big hands, I have a 7-3/4 hat size. Talk about weird looking...
When we went to the BMW driving school in SC, the second day was at the Michelin Proving Grounds, and they required all drivers to wear a helmet. So BMW gave us helmets. The first day they measured us, and the XL helmet was still extremely tight on my head. So I wore it while driving around the track, but as soon as I got out of the car for my wife to take her turn, off came the helmet. They were full face helmets too.
Hmmm, the helmets as well as all the other stuff they gave us are still in the upstairs guest room closet. I ought to throw it out - then I'd have more room for guns.
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Mar 16, 2010 21:10:55 GMT -5
Need I say more about "Dust Covers" ? The New Sig Sauers The Old |
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Post by MLB on Mar 17, 2010 8:06:23 GMT -5
I can't blame them for putting a rail on anything that has a muzzle on it. That's what people want. They have to make what will sell. It is an eyesore if you don't intend to use it though.
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Post by TMan on Mar 17, 2010 8:34:52 GMT -5
... It is an eyesore if you don't intend to use it though. Dang, I wish you hadn't said that. I had never really noticed it before, but I will now.  |
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Post by TBT on Mar 17, 2010 19:49:32 GMT -5
I'm odd that way. I have no intention of using any of the rails on my guns but I actually think they look cool on just about everything outside of a 1911. Keep that jazz off my government models and I'm happy.
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Post by MLB on Mar 18, 2010 8:27:32 GMT -5
It's just personal preference. At least the rail is useful. When I ordered my wife's car, a '98 Olds Intrigue, she liked the look of the spoiler on back. Why I'd put a spoiler that provides about zero aerodynamic downforce on a front wheel drive 4-door sedan that rarely exceeds 50 mph defies logic.
Well, she liked it. Makes it worth it I guess.
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Post by TMan on Mar 18, 2010 10:53:00 GMT -5
... Why I'd put a spoiler that provides about zero aerodynamic downforce on a front wheel drive 4-door sedan that rarely exceeds 50 mph defies logic.... I noticed that when the kid across the street got home from Iraq, and he spent all his saved up money on a Honda with a spoiler and a tailpipe having what must have been an 8" diameter, it was loud. The Z8 is 396HP, and I don't remember what it weighs, but it is all AL; it doesn't have a spoiler. It has DSC, which you can turn off, but having experienced how difficult the car is to control without DSC (at Spartanburg and not my Z8), I don't turn it off. Conseqently, it doesn't burn rubber, but moves as fast as it can without burning rubber. A couple of times when he was outside, I launched the Z8 going down the street. I thought about it, why the spoiler on a front wheel drive car. Then it dawned on me. These cars oversteer. The spoiler keeps downward force on the back tires, which helps reduce the oversteer. As far as the 50mph speed is concerned - think you can make a 90 degree turn at 50mph? I've been going far slower than that and had understeer. Although oversteer is something you experience a lot living in snow country, understeer is whole different experience - only did it once, and it wasn't my car. |
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Post by MLB on Mar 18, 2010 16:09:51 GMT -5
I think the 3.8L V6 in that thing makes about 200 hp. It's electronically limited to 126 mph they say, but I don't believe I've ever had it above 90.
If I ever had to make a 90 degree turn at 50mph, I'd rather try it in the Olds than in my Exploder, that's for sure. It certainly is more fun to drive than my truck. (I'm looking forward to the day when I can buy something older to fix up and play with. Smaller, V8, rwd, 5 speed manual, and an open top would be best. Sounds like a Mustang I think, though I love the Z3.)
I can see how a real spoiler might help with traction in the back end, but I doubt the thing has the right shape or angle to actually provide it. I'm pretty sure its more closely related to the silly Pontiac front air dams, Mustang side air scoops, and Prius brakes than anything functional.
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