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Post by "DoubleAction" on Feb 6, 2008 16:00:00 GMT -5
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Post by MLB on Feb 7, 2008 12:50:02 GMT -5
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Feb 7, 2008 15:43:17 GMT -5
ML; I'm glad you brought up the history of air guns. I was surprised how far back air guns went when I pulled up historical references.
Air guns have actually come a long way, and they continue to attract the interest of many. The spring powered pellet guns are also very popular, and quite powerful.
I had an instinct to purchase a couple of nice CO2 pistols some years ago; I'm now looking at these two pistols with a serious interest in backyard shooting.
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Post by MLB on Feb 7, 2008 16:59:00 GMT -5
One thing's for sure - the air will always be free.
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Post by TMan on Feb 7, 2008 22:38:08 GMT -5
One thing's for sure - the air will always be free. Not exactly. Some of these new exotic ones require a scuba tank with compressed air. I saw a guy bring a tank into Academy one day for a refill. I asked the guy behind the counter what was going on and he said it was for an air powered pistol. |
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Feb 8, 2008 0:27:41 GMT -5
Many of the paint ball pistols have larger air tanks.
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Jun 3, 2008 10:55:59 GMT -5
Sorting the Brass takes much longer if various calibers have to be sorted through. Each casing is then counted and place in baggies in counts of 100 cases per zip lock baggy. I use plastic ammo trays for sorting if I have a lot of 44 magnums and 44 specials, or 357 magnums and 38 specials mixed. Total of the sort came out to over 5,000 empty brass cases.This is the work, but it will save money in the end. Brass credit came up to a little over $200., Price of ammo came up to slightly over $300. with tax. This is how it came out. .45 acp per 500 rounds = $165. / 50 rds = $16. 357 sig per 500 rounds = $132.25 / 50 rds. = $13.25 My Cost after Brass Credit .45acp per 500 rounds = $60. / 50 rds = $6. 357 sig per 500 rounds = $40. / 50 rds = $4. IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Brass Credit Georgia Arms Ammunition Company 380 ACP Brass $2.00 Per/100 9 mm Brass $1.50 Per/100 357 Magnum Brass $4.00 Per/100 .40 S&W Brass $2.00 Per /100 357 Sig Brass $2.00 Per/100 10 MM Brass $3.00 Per/100 41 Magnum Brass $5.00 Per/100 44 Special Brass $5.00 Per/100 44 Magnum Brass $5.00 Per/100 45 ACP Brass $4.00 Per/100 45 Colt Brass $4.00 Per/100 38-40 Winchester Brass $5.00 Per/100 44-40 Brass $5.00 Per/100 454 Casull Brass $5.00 Per/100 270 Win. Brass $5.00 Per/100 7mm Rem. Brass $5.00 Per/100 308 Win. Brass $4.00 Per/100 30-06 Brass $5.00 Per/100 300 Win. Mag Brass $5.00 Per/100 Mixed Brass Per Lb = $1.50 |
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Post by MLB on Jun 3, 2008 13:31:33 GMT -5
I've been trying not to shoot .380 and 9mm at the same time. Not so much for chambering the wrong round, but seperating the brass at the end is rather tedious. The .40's and .45's stick out more and you can pick them out quickly by sight.
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Jun 3, 2008 14:42:27 GMT -5
I'm slower sorting the .357 magnum from the 38 special than anything else. The 357 sig is real easy but it don't bring as much as the other calibers I shoot. With just slightly over 5,000. rds this time, I averaged 4 cents per rd. The 44s offset the price of the 38 specials.
It's always a lot of work for such a payoff, but in the end it's worth what little savings one gets in return. Even if I reloaded, I would still have to police my brass.
I'm trying to work up a deal with a few police ranges to buy their brass. I found out that one has been selling their brass to a recycle center, rather than an ammunition reloader. They sell by the lb. to have the brass recycled back into a raw material. I don't reckon these cops give much thought to the ammunition industry's need for it.
I couldn't get reloads this time, I had to buy brand new factory loaded ammunition. The ammunition I have in storage is going up in price faster than my firearms. Five years ago I was paying $10, per box of 50 for new factory loaded .45 acp fmj. The same ammunition is now priced at $16. dollars per 50 rds., at 2,000. rds, that comes to an added cost of $240. dollars. Five years ago, $240. dollars would have bought 1200. rds. of .45 acp for me. I know some who are paying pver $20. dollars for 50 rds of .45 acp now; I told some about Georgia Arms and they jumped on it like white on rice. I stayed at $10. dollars a box for a long time. It's hard to get reloads from Georgia Arms right now; they're busier than I've ever seen them.
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Jun 9, 2008 10:03:18 GMT -5
More On The Rising Costs Of Ammo As if we don't already know. |
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Post by Callahan on Jun 9, 2008 11:28:22 GMT -5
One of a cupla reasons I'm shooting 357 Sig less and 9 mm more.
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Jun 10, 2008 20:58:41 GMT -5
One of a cupla reasons I'm shooting 357 Sig less and 9 mm more. Callahan; How much have you been having to pay for 357 sig ? |
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Post by Callahan on Jun 11, 2008 13:04:15 GMT -5
The local Academy Sports & Outdoors has the Winchester white box, personal protection HPs, at $25.99/50. Wal Mart has a cheaper price but they usuaally only carry FMJ target ammo.
The Remington ammo is sky high. Have not priced it recently. I bought a supply of both of Winchester and Remington some time ago when the prices were about 10% to 21% lower.
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Jun 11, 2008 14:07:26 GMT -5
The local Academy Sports & Outdoors has the Winchester white box, personal protection HPs, at $25.99/50. Wal Mart has a cheaper price but they usuaally only carry FMJ target ammo. The Remington ammo is sky high. Have not priced it recently. I bought a supply of both of Winchester and Remington some time ago when the prices were about 10% to 21% lower. Whoa; That is high Callahan. Callahan; I hooked some guys up on the internet with Georgia Arms and they were real happy, even though they had their ammunition shipped to them. I'm paying $13.25 per 50 rds of 357 sig without brass turn in; To me, that's expensive. The Georgia Arms ammunition is very good stuff and they use Starline brass; and they use Gold Dot bullets in their defensive ammunition. I really hate to see you paying that much for shooting ammunition, especially 357 sig; it's a real fun cartridge to shoot. I can tell you that all ammunition has gone up, it has nothing to do with the supply in demand. The 357 sig is very popular , maybe not as popular as the 9mm or .45 acp, but it has a good following. Try this link and Check out Georgia Arms' 357 sig www.georgia-arms.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=3210 |
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Post by Callahan on Jun 12, 2008 12:27:07 GMT -5
It won't tell me what the shipping charges are without registering. What to they want for shipping on 100 rounds? Is that new ammunition or reloaded?
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Jun 12, 2008 13:23:56 GMT -5
It won't tell me what the shipping charges are without registering. What to they want for shipping on 100 rounds? Is that new ammunition or reloaded? My label states that this ammunition is Factory Loaded; all the cartridges in my recent purchase are loaded using Speer brass. It is probably reloaded but their reloads are just as good or better than most new because of how they load. Their powder loads seem to be at the right burn rates for most pistols. I've been shooting their new ammunition and reloads for almost twenty years. I've never had any bulging of split mouths on any of their empty reloads, which is more than I can say from the new ammunition from the big companies. You can also call them on the phone. The Georgia Arms people are avid shooters themselves; Curtis Shipley, the owner, has been a long time competitive shooter with 1911 unlimited match pistols and others. If I decided to reload, I'm going to Georgia Arms to get their advice, before I go to anyone else. I would register with them online because they have to have a release from you regarding your age, prior to shipping any ammunition to your address. I filled my release out at one of their gun shows appearances a few years ago. You might be able to do it online now. Callahan; I'll tell you the honest truth, I feel as though I can rely on all their ammunition for every caliber I shoot, in either target fmj or defensive hollow point; and save a lot of money by doing so, without compromising quality. |
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