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Post by TMan on Jan 11, 2011 7:01:14 GMT -5
No, I haven't been drinking, and I'm not getting senile... well, maybe; the subject line is correct. The slides of both pistols are identified as "P220 S". I will refer to them as old and new. The oldest is on the top. First a picture and the comparison will be below it.  Weight: Old 2lb 14oz with the compensator; New 2lb 12oz Trigger: Old is DA/SA non-adjustable and breaks at 3lb 6oz; New is adjustable for weight and from the factory is 2lb 10oz. It is SA and is adjustable for position (forward and backward ), weight, and overtravel. Safety: Old has a decocker and New has a ambi-safety. Magazine Release: Old has extended magazine release, very easy to operate; New has a small release and difficult to operate. Trigger Guard: New has checkering on front of guard. Beavertail: New has one. Rear Sight: Both are adjustable, but the rear notch on the new one is more narrow. Grips: Wood on new vs. Rubber on old. Price: No idea because the Obama dollar doesn't buy what the Bush dollar did. Incidentally, I'm now updating my inventory to contain the SKU where I have it. Although what is on the slide is the same, they would have different UPC's and SKU's. |
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Jan 11, 2011 7:39:34 GMT -5
TMan; Check to see if the older P-220 Sport slide was manufactured in W.Germany. I do believe that your older P-220 Sport Pistol was manufactured about two or three years before, the Sig Arms was sold to the current owners. I replaced the extended mag release, on one of my Sport Pistols, because it was disengaging the magazine while being in the holster. I called Sig and ordered a standard release. It wasn't a isolated incident with the release, it just too long to be holstered without risk having the magazine dislodge from the mag well. I should have demanded satisfaction from Sig Arms, at no cost to me for both pistols.......But some people prefers them and I never know when I might have to sell one. Bytheway; I ordered a short trigger for my Sport, a few years ago, from TA and its much better. |
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Post by MLB on Jan 11, 2011 8:40:39 GMT -5
The new one certainly does seem to be greatly improved, in looks if nothing else!
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Jan 11, 2011 17:03:36 GMT -5
....If you noticed it; I ordered the nickel plated steel short trigger, because, Nickel reduces friction, provides more comfort to the pad of the trigger finger, and because of the design on the short trigger, it is more contoured around the edges and the nickel works as a self lubricating bearing for the finger placement.
....A lot of those will probably disagree with me on this, saying that they prefer a serrated trigger to prevent trigger slip and ot maintain a firm non-slip pad for finger.
...Well; To each his own, but I like my coffee black with one spoon of sugar and I like my eggs over light with the white cooked and the yellow running. Also like the short triggers on my Sig pistols ;D
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Post by TMan on Jan 12, 2011 15:32:08 GMT -5
DA, it says on the slide that it was made in Germany, so I assume the whole pistol was made there, but I don't know for sure.
I remember working on a check sorter that was made in Endicott, NY. I was replacing a bearing that was bad, and I read on the side of it: "Made in Japan". So much for American made.
I remember looking on an automobile sticker and it broke down the country of origin and percentage of parts made in each country.
I'm with you when it comes to triggers. I don't like the serrated triggers.
When I was shooting the new one, I tried putting the index finger on the front of the trigger guard thinking that it would help keep the muzzle down in recoil. I couldn't keep my finger on it; it kept coming off with recoil.
Ed was shooting while I was and with one round he shot just as I was putting pressure on the trigger. I jumped and pulled one round. The rest were in the center. It is a very accurate gun, and the long sight radius definitely adds to it.
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Jan 13, 2011 8:28:36 GMT -5
TMan; I shoot my Sig Sauer 229 Sport Pistol, in 357sig, with more hand held accuracy, than any other pistol than I own.This is the only pistol that I was guaranteed the 10 ring at 25 yds, in a dim lighted indoor shooting range and this would happen on, one of my bad days.
A lot hand fitting and careful attention went into these pistols, to me, its very difficult and hard to find this kind of quality, for that kind money, in a pistol today.
One day, I was showing off one my project 1911 Colts to a counter guy and when I went to the range, this customer was beside me on another bay, and afterwards he thought that I was shooting my 1911 project, when in fact, I was shooting my Sig Sport Pistol. ;D
I have never seen a bad review about these pistols, or their price.
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Post by TA on Feb 4, 2011 22:38:22 GMT -5
The bottom gun looks like the P220 X-6. Really nice gun and still made in Germany. It is considered a Sig Sauer Mastershop gun.
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Post by TMan on Feb 5, 2011 8:17:25 GMT -5
Gold Star for TA. Yes it is the X-Six, and I wrote about in in another thread. It doesn't say X-Six on the gun anywhere, nor does my X-Five say "X-Five" anywhere on it. I pulled the X-Five out of the safe one day. I looked it over and couldn't figure out what it was because it didn't say X-Five on it. After awhile I concluded that it must be the X-Five.
The people that have shot the old 220 Sport have absolutely loved it. The most common remark is that it is like shooting a 38 Special.
I think only Ed has shot the X-Six. I've been busy shooting the Colt Defender. I still haven't gotten it to shoot the brass where I want it, but if I have a death grip on it, the brass will go over my head. Relax just a little and you get it right in the face. I think by shooting it more, the recoil spring will weaken some and the slide/frame fit will get looser. Then it should always clear my forehead.
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Post by 5ontarget on Feb 14, 2011 12:15:10 GMT -5
... I've been busy shooting the Colt Defender. I still haven't gotten it to shoot the brass where I want it, but if I have a death grip on it, the brass will go over my head. Relax just a little and you get it right in the face. I think by shooting it more, the recoil spring will weaken some and the slide/frame fit will get looser. Then it should always clear my forehead. Weaker spring you say.. www.gunsprings.com/Semi-Auto%20Pistols/COLT/DEFENDER/cID1/mID1/dID66 |
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Post by TMan on Feb 14, 2011 18:19:02 GMT -5
5OT, I'm not sure what the factory spring is on this thing. I doubt if it is the same as for the 45 ACP.
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