CHIAPPA GOLD RHINO 60DS 357 6"

[TMan]

So Chiappa has come out with a Gold version of the Rhino. I would have thought that they would have come out with an albino version first.

[5ontarget]

Ever since we started discussing the Rhino, I've been trying to figure out where I'd seen something like that before. Finally, while driving home in the rain, it came to me.
The Mateba revolvers from a few years ago. They were semi auto and fire from the 6:00 cylinder.

["DoubleAction"]

....5on; The Mateba revolvers brings up memories.....We talked about them on the old Handgun Review Forum.

...The first time that read about them was in books, before I was on the INTERNET. I used to have several large piles of books around me, when I was on that forum......This was before, I learned about the search engines ;D

[MLB]

Very cool find 5OT. I don't recall reading about them.

[5ontarget]

Here's another tidbit I learned recently. The US contact for Chiappa is in Dayton, Ohio. MKS supply. Does that ring a bell with anyone? Think HiPoint. I never looked into it, until just recenlty, as I was looking into a cheap .22 M-forgery for my nephews and son to shoot. www.mkssupply.com/

[TMan]

They have their own web-site under MKS as well: www.mkschiappa.com/

This is kind of interesting: M9-22



My first thought was: "got's to get me one", but then I looked at the trigger. I want to read a review first. Of course if they get a great review it will be like trying to get a Kel-tec PMR-30.

M9-22 Standard (available soon)

The M9-9mm has been a U.S. standard-issue service pistol since 1990. Chiappa's M9-22 is a replica of this pistol in 22 long rifle.

The Chiappa M9-22 has the same weight and feel as its 9mm counterpart but has an affordable 22 long rifle cartridge which makes it a true rimfire reproduction.

With two models to choose from, the M9-22 is a natural choice for any type of shooting sports training, target shooting and plain old fun plinking. For about $20 you can have a whole afternoon of fun with this affordable 22 long rifle.


Price: $369.00



Caliber: .22 LR

No. of Shots: 10

Barrel Length: 5"

Total Length: 8.5"

Weight: 2.3 lbs.

Finish: Black

Comes standard with: two 10-round magazines; 1/2-28 threaded barrel; fixed front sight and windage adjustable rear sight; either black plastic or walnut grips; and, steel trigger & hammer assembly

[5ontarget]

and one independent of MKS with a few more offerings.

www.chiappafirearms.com/

["DoubleAction"]

Feb 12, 2012 7:58:46 GMT -5 5ontarget said:

and one independent of MKS with a few more offerings.

www.chiappafirearms.com/

....5on; I went to this link, and the very first thing that I saw was reproductions of Old West American Firearms. I then did a search on Chaippa Firearms, and my suspicions was right, the company has it's roots in Italy.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiappa_Firearms

....I have two Old West Reproductions manufactured in Italy and both are well made. The case harden forged steel is something that is a rarity in our factories, and when it's offered, it's a very expensive option.

.....I will look more into the Chaippa lineup.

[TMan]

The Italians make some fine firearms, but like anywhere else, there is also some junk being made.

I would only buy something from Pietta if it wasn't available from Uberti or Davide Pedersoli.

Chiappa's 1911-22 is not as good as the Sig Sauer/GSG 1911-22. The quality just isn't there.

I was impressed with the build/fit/finish of the Rhino, and was glad to add it to my collection. I'd like to see some additional pieces from Chiappa before becoming a fan or purchasing anymore from them.

On a scale of 1 to 10, I'd give the Rhino a 9. Their 1911-22, I would give a 3. Had I not seen the competition 1911-22's I'd probably rate the Chiappa higher.

This is a BP pistol that I don't have and I must admit that it looks good - especially with it having a set-trigger:



It is: "ROCHATTE A' PARIS cal.45 percussion "

However, looks can be deceiving. I absolutely loved the looks of my little Fiat, but the quality on a scale of 1-10 was -3. I still am interested in the new Fiat 500 seen on www.fiatusa.com, but only to look at one, not to own one.

I don't mean that I wouldn't own one because of the previous reliability problems, but the Abarth model that I like has 170 ft-lb of torque. That would be great if the horsepower went to the backwheels, but it doesn't, it is front wheel drive. Been there ,done that, and a lot of HP/torque to the front wheels makes steering erratic.

["DoubleAction"]

....TMan; I agree on the junk being made. There is something to say about the prices of these firearms. When 1911 pistols are priced at $400. dollars, you can expect cast parts.

[TMan]

DA, you got me thinking: MIM vs cast. With cast don't they just pour molten metal into a form to create the final part?

I saw a thing on TV in the US where the guy from Taurus was showing MIM parts and they were way over-sized. Then they put them into a furnace and they shrunk to the final desired size.

So, I'm wondering: do MIM parts have an advantage over cast i.e. would they hold up to wear over time better?

["DoubleAction"]

TMan; The MIM parts are often used on small parts, such as triggers or hammers. The cast parts might be made for Frames and Slides.

....Add the two together, and you would probably have a $300. to $400. 1911 Pistol.

.....My Wilson CQB Pistols has MIM Hammers and I have never had any problems. If they was Colts, I would gut the entire trigger system....Which I usually do. The only reason that I don't gut the Wilsons, is the fact that they have the fastest triggers among my collection.

.....The Cast Frames & Slides will not hold up to the strength of forged steel. The Rowland 460 conversion, is not recommended for the cast frames & slides, because of the lack strength.

.....The Aluminum Alloy Frames of the Sig Sauers, has a forged steel locking block in the frame.

[TMan]

The Aluminum Alloy Frames of the Sig Sauers, has a forged steel locking block in the frame

I think I mentioned before that my cousin's Sig frame cracked after a little over 50,000 rounds and he now carries a Glock.

What do you mean by "fastest" triggers. Are you just referring to a light trigger pull?

["DoubleAction"]

Feb 14, 2012 19:55:37 GMT -5 TMan said:

The Aluminum Alloy Frames of the Sig Sauers, has a forged steel locking block in the frame

What do you mean by "fastest" triggers. Are you just referring to a light trigger pull?

....The triggers breaks like glass, with no friction, short reset, zero take up.
....In other words; The trigger finger can tap out the rounds without having squeeze trigger.......this prevents pulling off the shots from one shot to the next, when the trigger is squeezed. I learned this from watching Bill Wilson about 25 years ago. Having the trigger finger placed on the trigger during shooting, will cause the finger to grip the trigger like the other fingers. It might not be noticeable when firing one round at a time, but when speed shooting you might have grip tighten up without knowing. The trigger finger should be isolated from the fingers that forms the hand grip. Accurate Shot placement depends on no disturbance of the trigger, upon the impact or ignition of the primer cap. Try this, but start off with one shot at a time and work your way up to a full magazine.......You might already do this or something else, but, this is the way I improved my shooting.

.....Sorry for the late reply TMan.

["DoubleAction"]

Feb 14, 2012 19:55:37 GMT -5 TMan said:

I think I mentioned before that my cousin's Sig frame cracked after a little over 50,000 rounds and he now carries a Glock.

......The Sigs has a steel locking insert in the frame and a steel locking take down lever. It also has steel springs that is not guaranteed to last forever. The cost of the ammo, for that many rounds, out exceeds the cost of the maintenance and the springs. Even though low maintenance pistols like the Glocks, requires some maintaining in order guarantee proper functional operation.

....TMan; I like you keeping me on my toes, it's good for me.

[9mmlives]

The revolvers that fire from the 6:00 position look great.

Muy sexy!

I haven't been able to fire one yet, so the verdict is out on usability.