Rights and Wrongs

["DoubleAction"]

...There is a long list of things that is right for some but wrong for others,and vice versa. One of the wrong things to do is to lock the slide back on a semi-auto, insert a round in the chamber, then shut the slide.This causes the extractor hook to ride over the rim of the cartridge,rather than having the rim of the cartridge slide under the hook.This will affect the extractor tension,as well as wear on the hook.

....This is a common mistake when loading a pistol beyond it normal ammo capacity.....( full magazine, plus one in the chamber ).

....This wasn't mean't to undermind the intellegence of any person or category of shooter, but chambering a cartridge manually in a semi-auto and having the extractor hook ride over the cartridge rim is not how the feed cycle of the pistol is designed. Loading a magazine into the pistol, and chambering the first cartridge from the magazine, then remove the magazine, load another round into the magazine, reinserting the full magazine, which gives one a full mag + one in the chamber.
I have noticed on a certain compact single stack designs,the increased magazine spring tension, of a fully loaded magazine, puts increased pressure on the magazine release catch, which can cause the magazine to dislodge.

[TMan]

OK, so that is how not to do it, but if you want to load magazine capacity + 1, the way they are typically advertising these days, what is the correct way to do it.

Option 1: Put a single round into the magazine, load it and release the slide. Remove the magazine load it to capacity and re-insert it.

Option 2: Load magazine to capacity, load it, release the slide, drop it, add a round to the magazine and re-insert it.

Note that inserting the magazine while the slide is not open, can require additional pressure and you have to ensure that it is fully engaged.

If the magazine is add full capacity, it is also at full tension. That means the full amount of force is needed to chamber that first round that is stripped from the magazine.

I do not recommend going +1. If the magazine holds 8, load 8, let the slide strip the first round leaving 7 in the magazine, and not under full tension. If you really needed that extra round, you are probably screwed anyhow and still wouldn't hit the target.

["DoubleAction"]

....With the American magazine catch locks; Many magazines might be altered to accept 1 more round, and because the fully loaded magazine will be resting on the center rail of the slide, this will cause the top round to pressed further into the magazine, thus causing excessive tension on already compressed magazine spring. The magazine will have the higher risk of dislodging from the magazine well, or having the welded metal magazine floor plate popping off, while carrying.

.....The American magazine catch locks verses The European butt catch locks.....Think about it.

[blueglass]

I have found many of the European magazines are a 12 round count mag especially in the 22LR models. I actually have a few which I am not supposed to have up here. I just load the standard 10 and keep quiet about the room for more. Its rifles that do that from what I have found so far only.

[MLB]

I fill the magazine, chamber, and then top off the magazine. TMan's probably right though, if 7 won't do the job, 8 isn't likely to improve the situation.

["DoubleAction"]

Nov 28, 2012 21:37:58 GMT -5 MLB said:

I fill the magazine, chamber, and then top off the magazine. TMan's probably right though, if 7 won't do the job, 8 isn't likely to improve the situation.

....This is reason why preferred the .45 acp or the .357 magnum.

.....One time; I was riding on the shotgun side of my brother's car and when we stopped at a restaurant, the seat belt snagged on my magazine base plate. I didn't know this until after I sat down, and got back up to have a full magazine of rounds fall to the floor, in the presence of others.
.......I was accustomed to exiting a vehicle on the driver's side, and the retracting seat belt, on my brother's car, was strange to me; This added to Murphy's Law. This is why a prefer the Wilson magazines, with the non snag base plates.