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Post by Data on Apr 21, 2004 11:07:13 GMT -5
I dont think that would be a problem. In over ten years I have NEVER seen any gun store clerk, no matter how ignorant recommend anything but Jacketed Hollow point self defense ammo for carry.
When asked which particular brand they like they almost invariably state that they would recommend any of them because they are all effective.....
For that matter you could say you got the info about it from ANY BOOK ON SELF DEFENSE and it would be fine with me if they subpenoed the author or publisher and let him testify for the prosecution against self defense and gun owners rights...Id pay money to see how that goes over. In fact, Id even recommend they send a summons directly to the ammo manufacturer while they are at it.
I dont think the "extra deadly ammo" argument holds up when your talking about "off the shelf bullets" available at most gun shops....that is it doesnt hold up to anyone with a modicum of common sense.
However, DO NOT LOAD YOUR OWN PERSONAL CARRY AMMO. Then you are asking for problems.
It reminds me of an episode of walker Texas ranger a few years ago....when they made "hydrashok bullets" sound like somthing lucifer himself had created and Walker used the bullestics and "unusal bullet type" to track down a "cop killer". (who turned out to be a crooked cop....that is how he had "access" to the "hard to purchase bullets").
Im not making it up....it was the Hydras in that episode.
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Apr 21, 2004 19:40:13 GMT -5
Everyone's preferences for concealed and carry cannot be rebutted because those choices are in compliance with each one's own opinion regarding the safe guards of your life, and those that your sworn to protect. When it comes to my own life being compromized, or the lives of my family, and even my dogs, my rules are governed by instinct and the laws of survival. This will tell how I react when the occaission presents itself. For my own preferred handgun for stopping power, I have all the confidence in the world with the .45 acp. Due to the fact that most of my pistols that chamber this cartridge are either steel frame 1911s or the Sig 220, my options in the smaller, lighter, guns are with the Colt Detective Special in .38 special +P and Sig 239 in .40 S&W/357sig. I usually carry the Sig 239 in .40 S&W with 135 gr. Corbons, these bullets will give me a velosity of 1300 fps. This is my bottom line choice in a semi-auto, which I carry for casual concealment. I have optional X Style harnesses for all of my semi-autos, as well as the lo profile belt holsters from Galco and Wilson Combat. My brother showed me an idea a few weeks ago with wearing a leg holster with one of those S&W small frame ultra light revolers, with the boot grips, for driving. In his car, the seats set lower to the floor board, which allows him easy access to the gun. Driving is one primary reason I prefer the harness, because it allows me unrestricted access to the gun, and if I have to make a speedy exit, the gun, and extra magazines follow with me. If I'm going out late, I usually raise the level of carry options with my Wilson CQB Compact, Colt Combat Commander, or Officers ACP with 185 gr. +P Gold Dots, Winchester SXT, Hydra Shoks, or Remington Golden Sabers. Either of these should provide enough damage to give me a fair chance in a confrontation. For the most part, I practice mostly with the .45acp, .40S&W, and 357sig, because my life might, one day, depend on one of these cartridges. I carry what is most portable and easier to conceal, according to how I'm dressed, and what I'll be doing. My overall best choice for concealed and carry, among my own available guns, is the 4" barrel of the Wilson CQB 1911, I shoot this pistol better than any I own, and the low profile offsets it's heavier weight, as opposed to my alloy frame Sigs. One thing most all of my more serious carry guns have in common; They all have Trijicon Tritium Sights, or equal. Still in it all, I'm always bringing up a new entry to my carry options.
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Post by Data on Apr 22, 2004 11:41:00 GMT -5
Im not trying to rebuttal just explain. I carry hydrashoks somtimes myself.
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Post by Callahan on Apr 22, 2004 11:53:23 GMT -5
I would probably prefer the .45 ACP round for concealed carry also, now that they have been able to downsize the .45 auto and make it reliable. That was not the case when I bought a .40 for carry. It seems like it's just been in the past year or two that some of the manufacturers have worked out the cycling problems on the ultra small .45s.
It looks like to me like the small Paras with the LDA trigger are reliable, as well as the Kimbers. I'm not that sure about the small Colts and Springfields yet.
I'm still happy with the .40 S&W/.357 SiG combination. I have confidence in either round being a stopper.
I've been thinking about going with frangible ammo in my smaller calibers...
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Apr 22, 2004 16:34:13 GMT -5
Im not trying to rebuttal just explain. I carry hydrashoks somtimes myself. Data; In the .45 acp, I would trust lead wadcutters or FMJ Hardball if need be, but the ones I mentioned are choices that I might load up before leaving. Not to say one is better than the other, I really do not worry with those kind of querps with the 45, but I do like the georgia arms +P Gold Dot for it's price.
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