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Post by TBT on Dec 31, 2005 15:58:31 GMT -5
I want to acquire 3 guns in 2006, a very modest proposal and even the wife agrees. What I’ve decided on is that I want a revolver, another 1911, and an assault rifle. I’ve pretty much decided on what I want too. I plan on adding;
Smith and Wesson 27-2
Smith and Wesson 1911
Bushmaster Patrolman AR-15
The 27-2 has won me over via advice from DA and a load of research on my part. I want this to be my first revolver. This is going to be the hard one to acquire though as I won’t buy a used gun via the internet and will have to find one locally as they are no longer in production. I’m just stoked about this gun now. It’s got everything I’m looking for.
The Bushmaster is probably going to be my first buy, maybe as early as Monday. A local shop is running a killer sale. I know little about AR’s and rifles in general but unless I’m told otherwise here or abroad, this seems like a sensible gun to start my collection on.
The SW1911 is the one I’m currently drooling over the most. I’m just a 1911 guy … something about them gets my juices going like mad. I’ve heard almost nothing bad about these Smiths and the internet is a great haven for the unhappy so its encouraging. Their customer service seems to be top notch again and their performance center seems very reasonable for upgrades if I choose to go that route. My only decision here is blue/stainless and fixed/adjustable. I’ve had rust issues (minor as they may have been) and am leaning toward the stainless though I do like the blued version better. Why can’t blued be as resilient a finish?
I won’t be buying this outright. Gone will be my XD and my SA Milspec. The XD though I really like it, has never won me over. I think it’s the polymer. Great gun, but no love there. The SA was bought as a building platform that I just will never get around to doing. I’ve decided to swap these two in on a higher end 1911 and adjust/build from there.
Anywho … those are my plans.
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Post by TMan on Dec 31, 2005 17:49:26 GMT -5
I guess this is the SW 1911 you are going to get n'est pas? ;D  According to their web-site, tinyurl.com/72sak they look like they are going fast. I haven't really considered a S&W 1911; well, never really looked at them. I notice that they start at $960 - a bit more expensive than the SA guns. Incidentally, I have a S&W 952 that is a safe queen. I don't shoot it because I hate cleaning it. It is a SOB to try to get the barrel back into the slide. There was a little slip of paper in the box where they tell you to lightly lubricate the barrel. It is a nice looking gun though:  I like your idea of pre-determining what you are going to buy during the year. That can keep you from making emotional buys. I never make emotional buys, and bears don't like honey.  |
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Post by Fobos on Dec 31, 2005 18:08:22 GMT -5
Dear God......  |
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Post by TBT on Dec 31, 2005 19:39:35 GMT -5
See ... I'm not so much into big engraving like that. I love the look of a utilitarian all business gun.
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Post by TBT on Jan 2, 2006 20:18:26 GMT -5
I don't know what I was thinking but I missed the big Bushmaster sale at my local shop. The sale ran from Christmas to New Years. The genius that I am decided to wait until after the holidays to check it out. heh. I'm as backwards as liberal politics.
Needless to say I missed out on the great deals and also the guns. I would have just bought one at regular price and swallowed it, but they were bone dry.
The did give me good money for my Spinger MilSpec and my XD9 tactical though. So I got a little more to play with.
Was hoping they had a 27-2 there I could finger or even an SW1911 I could fondle. No such luck. That shop is such a hole in reality. The floor is all crooked and I get seasick walking to the counter.
So the search continues. SW1911 blue with adjustable sights, Bushmaster AR15, and SW 27-2. All beyond my reach for now, but not for long ...
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Post by TMan on Jan 2, 2006 22:56:30 GMT -5
Dear God...... Ok,ok, actually there is something about it that appeals to me - I appreciate the amount of labor that went into making it. We have some amazing ivory carvings, and I just can't believe the amount of time/work that went into making them. Even the detail on some of our rosewood pieces is quite spectacular. |
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Jan 2, 2006 23:22:08 GMT -5
Dear God...... |
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Post by TMan on Jan 3, 2006 7:52:37 GMT -5
DA, the $10,000 is just the MSRP, which S&W sets rather high. I wouldn't expect to pay more than $7,000 for it based on what I've paid for other S&W's. It kind of makes my engraved Jennings J-22 look like a real bargain since it cost me 100 times less. Now I will admit the engraving job on the S&W is better than that on my Jennings, but the S&W wouldn't shoot any better than my Jennings. In case you haven't had coffee yet: it wouldn't shoot any better because like the Jennings, I would not be shooting either of them. If I was a collector, I think the S&W would be a fine choice, but I'm not a collector - I buy to shoot (with the P7M8 Jubilee and the Jennings being the two exceptions, but I have two other Jennings and a P7 PSP that I do shoot). |
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Jan 4, 2006 2:06:30 GMT -5
DA, the $10,000 is just the MSRP, which S&W sets rather high. I wouldn't expect to pay more than $7,000 for it based on what I've paid for other S&W's TMan; If anyone pays $7,000 dollars for this pistol, it will be one who finds little need in asking how much. I should have mentioned the fact that $10,000. dollars was only the Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price, but I also failed to take into serious consideration the purchase of this pistol even with a 30 percent mark down. American Derringer once made an Engraved model, with Ivory grips and case, which was listed at over $26,000. dollars, and that was over ten years ago. Colt once charged $1600. dollars for full coverage engraving; I do not know what the price is today. |
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Jan 4, 2006 3:03:15 GMT -5
I have to correct myself in regards to the price on the Derringer I had in Mind; The 14 karat Gold Engraved Lady Derringer had a MSRP of $110,000. dollars. It also featured a Diamond ramp front sight blade, with a fiited French Jewelry Box.
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Post by ron on Jan 4, 2006 15:43:54 GMT -5
I like nice engraving on shotguns. I had a Spanish made Lanber that, although very inexpensive ($550), had some pleasing, machine made engraving on the receiver. Nowadays, a beautiful engraving can be programed into an engraving machine.
If you like fancy embellishments, then get involved with banjos! There are banjos with fancy cut pearl and abalone inlay with hand engraving on the inlay. Some even have carvings on the heel of the neck and the back of the resonator.
Ron 'too many expensive hobbies'
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Post by TMan on Jan 5, 2006 14:22:06 GMT -5
... then get involved with banjos! ... Not until I've lost all my hearing. ;D |
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Post by TBT on Jan 11, 2006 10:32:50 GMT -5
Now I'm drooling over the Papa SSP line of 1911's. Can't help it. Now I'm not sure if I want to go Smith and Wesson or Para.
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Post by 5ontarget on Jan 11, 2006 13:02:24 GMT -5
That's the problem with research (some call it shopping), you see more things that you "need."
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Post by TMan on Jan 11, 2006 13:09:21 GMT -5
 "SSP" Uhhh, which ones are those? Got a link? I've given some thought to the Para Carry pistol: www.paraord.com/product/product.html?id=33However, I need to rent and shoot one of the LDA's before I spend that much money on something that I'm not sure that I'll like.
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Post by 5ontarget on Jan 11, 2006 13:45:38 GMT -5
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Post by "DoubleAction" on Jan 11, 2006 14:18:38 GMT -5
The "SSP" seems at first glance to be a very good option for what it offers in price. However; Since it is a Para, which is known for the wide body frames, I would take into consideration of this verses obtaining a Para in the single stack confiquiration. This "SSP" also gives mention of a "Ramped" barrel for the steel frame in .45 acp. If this implies that the barrel has an intergral ramped chamber; I would not find this necessary for the single stacked steel frame 1911 in .45 acp.
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Post by TMan on Jan 11, 2006 17:18:56 GMT -5
... If this implies that the barrel has an intergral ramped chamber; I would not find this necessary for the single stacked steel frame 1911 in .45 acp... Hmmm, what difference does the single stacked frame make? |
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Post by TBT on Jan 12, 2006 2:22:34 GMT -5
The SSP I believe are the single stack versions. The "SSP" seems at first glance to be a very good option for what it offers in price. However; Since it is a Para, which is known for the wide body frames, I would take into consideration of this verses obtaining a Para in the single stack confiquiration. This "SSP" also gives mention of a "Ramped" barrel for the steel frame in .45 acp. If this implies that the barrel has an intergral ramped chamber; I would not find this necessary for the single stacked steel frame 1911 in .45 acp. |
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Post by ron on Jan 12, 2006 10:03:53 GMT -5
My appetite for handguns is stimulated by reading about these wonderful 1911 models!
I was considering a new 1911 to replace the one I sold to help buy a dual sport motorcycle. But, I also would like a 357 like the 686. Now that I have a 357 Blackhawk, I may become interested in Single Action Shooting. That would require purchase of a lever action replica of a late 19th century rifle as well as a period shotgun. So, my next purchase might be a 357 lever action.
Then, again, it would be nice to have a 686, a Sig 220, an XD 45, and XD Compact..... sigh.
Ron
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"SSP" Uhhh, which ones are those? Got a link? I've given some thought to the Para Carry pistol: